molly hankwitz on 19 Oct 2000 03:16:08 -0000 |
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[Nettime-bold] Al Gore and the Internet discussion |
Roberto, I'm right in there with you. We are seduced to do more activities on the Net and there seems to be less and less public space for fighing for the public sphere. I think this is why we also search for independent content on the Net and why net.time is good, because it gives us that space. if only we can keep open public discourse on the Net - I think this is really key because certainly cities as "real" space are closing down a lot of public space in favor of "controlled" even privately owned or maintained parks, recreation, streets, etc. (both american as well as australian space) i think we will experience ongoing turbulence because its really private and public that are conceptually restructured now under the very dominant capitalism we are expereincing. everyday life is being restructured in its updraft i'm afraid. what is started everyday to fight for public freedom builds one little piece of turf for the future. hopefully all the bits of turf will hold out together. it's a bit scary. increased privatization does just that. world-weary m From: Roberto Verzola <rverzola@phil.gn.apc.org> Date: 06 Oct 00 16:31:31 Subject: Re: <nettime> Al Gore and the Internet To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net Sender: nettime-l-request@bbs.thing.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Roberto Verzola <rverzola@phil.gn.apc.org> > From my perspective, civil society isn't >being seduced, it is being systematically >excluded! Here's a recent article I wrote >on this topic. You are referring to decision-making on Internet matters. Since much of the Internet infrastructure is now private property, why would you be surprised if its decision-making, like any business firm, excludes the public at large? I was referring to our *life* - how we talk to each other, how we teach the young, how we buy our needs, how we entertain ourselves, even how we protest: we are being seduced to conduct more and more of it on the Internet. Away from public spaces where we have the strongest grounds to fight for our access rights, towards private spaces where property rights can more easily constrain us. Roberto Verzola _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold