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- Subject: Who chooses the Supreme Court?
- From: "Lebares, Carter" <clebares@Fibrogen.com>
- Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:25:16 -0800
The president doesn't appoint the Supremem Court - he nominates for it. This is laid-out, below, as well as some other good stuff. -----Original Message----- From: nettime's_man_behind_the_curtain [SMTP:nettime@bbs.thing.net] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:45 AM To: Nettime Subject: <nettime> (Voting for)? Nader (is|was) important, get rid of (fear|him\!) digest ".........So much complete misinformation, and completely ridiculous nonsense that I had to post to this list out of a sense of civic duty. Many of the readers of this list are from outside the US, and many who are Americans have succumbed to a case of mass stupidity over the last couple of weeks. So let's start off with a few facts. The President doesn't choose the Supreme Court in the US, the Senate does. The President only sends nominations. The President checks with the Senate leadership, in most cases, before Supreme Court nominees are offered the position. Nonetheless, the Senate has denied approval to several nominees in recent years, including Robert Bork and that pot smoker Ginsberg. Senate right of approval is absolute and not subject to override or veto, so if you were really concerned about future Supreme Court members, you would be focused on the Senate, not the President. Again, for you slow ones who were out sick that day in 1967, the President does not appoint the Supreme Court, the Senate does. Tie-breaker question: who nominated the most liberal judges sitting there now? Republicans have nominated just as many liberal judges(Souter, Stevens) as the Democrats(Breyer, Ginsberg), maybe more. The Senate also appoints all the other judges. In this case, the President doesn't even make the nominations. Senators decide who will sit on the courts in their states, and they give the nominations to the President as part of their senatorial prerogative. In this instance, the President doesn't even have a say. The President then turns around the formally nominates the person. All federal judges must be confirmed by the Senate. In the Clinton administration, a motley crew of conservative judges was appointed because that was all the Senate would approve. ".......Polling does indicate the Dems will probably retake both houses. Worried about whether abortion, the only issue left for discussion by some nettime subscribers? You better hope for a Democratic Congress because Gore is a strictly antiabortion and has been his whole political career. The only hope to protect women's rights generally is a Demo Congress, not Al Gore. The same goes for all that other stuff you want to protect, like affirmative action for the salmon, global warming, the hole in the atmosphere (not your head), nude swimming, and lyrics in hip hop music. As far as claims that Ralph Nader is not for women's rights, minority or ethnic quality, or the environment. Well, these claims are so outrageous and stupid that they don't really deserve response. What they are doing, however, and make no mistake, is demonstrating better than anything possible that the Gore campaign lacks any shred of integrity or intellectual honesty whatsoever. Even if you were leaning Gore, after listening to these characters claim Nader is not pro environment or women's right, you really must vote Nader. Its like saying the Pope doesn't really support Christianity, or that Elle MacPherson isn't really a women, or that Clinton is secretly gay. But I guess these folks learned something about that 'big lie' stuff and figure if they say something completely outrageous in today's conspiratorial society, someone somewhere will thinks its true....." Mike Weisman, citizen Seattle, WA