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>cage nn haz releaszd 173 cdz dzat = !nfr!nge upon [cage.z] 2.3 [z!lansz] >>> but the gimmick-art thing going on today, has no soul, >>> no emotion, no depth, no communication. = prez!zl!. = !t dzat makez !t .be au+au t!fl++ >>> but the gimmick-art thing going on today, has no soul, >>> no emotion, no depth, no communication. when humans listen to one person speaking. read one page of print - much of what humans think they see or hear is supplied from personal memory. whatever the brain looks at is really about 20% of signals from the outside world and 80% of old templates, filters, memories and beliefs about the world. konztataz!e +? fr!endl!. nn pre.konssept!n meeTz ver!f1kat!n. - Netochka Nezvanova - i d r e a m f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST @www.eusocial.com 17.hzV.tRL.478 e | | +---------- | | < \\----------------+ | n2t | > e pre.konssept!n meeTz ver!f1kat!n. - Netochka Nezvanova - i z k r ! ! m f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST @www.eusocial.com 17.hzV.tRL.478 e | | +---------- | | < \\----------------+ | n2t | > e pre.konssept!n meeTz ver!f1kat!n. - Netochka Nezvanova - nothing : strength through diversity f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST @www.eusocial.com 17.hzV.tRL.478 e | | +---------- | | < \\----------------+ | n2t^P | > e >Terrence; > >Really, An empty communication is as pure as the concept gets. I posted it in >seriousness. There is true meaning to what i did, I consider it a very small >but important gesture. I will contextualize further at a future site . > >Since ((o)) has posted his www.emptywebsite.com and is making agressive >unprovoked attacks on my work I will parlay IMO ((o)) s approach is merely >echoing other great works and is perhaps "the original webart empty gimmick". I >mean he goes as far as even registering the site and putting a registered mark >on it. How long did he wait so he could slip it on Rhizome? It is hilarious >really. His big mistake was dissing my truly serious empty e-mail art work on >this list serve. > >Teo did ask for all forms of empty net art. ((o)) behaviour here is >unprofessional and his invalidating is really creepy. > >ARTNATURAL > > > > >Gustavo Barbosa wrote: > >> I agree... >> Besides in Cage's, for instance, there was the whole issue about silence, is >> there such thing and all that... probably not, so it still can be considered >> a piece... >> The digital media/world is much colder so yep, it's empty and that's it... >> nothing more, nothing less, nothing else... >> Well, that's what I think... at least now... >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: (((o))) <leegte@xs4all.nl> >> To: <list@rhizome.org> >> Sent: 08 November 2000 19:15 >> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: empty net.art >> >> i'm afraid i'm not in favor of this approach. >> >> empty work is not just some rational gimmick, >> "who can think of something to do with empty" kind of stuff. >> you could maybe end at a minimal style of work as the only way out of >> expressing your thoughts or feelings you've been gardening. >> that's worth something. >> but the gimmick-art thing going on today, has no soul, >> no emotion, no depth, no communication. >> and it's precisely that what makes good minimal work so beautifull. >> it frightens you out of your wits, slams you on the floor, to let you start >> crying, >> or you walk out pissed off because some artist tried to wedge you out of >> your >> precious projected world, and apparently did a good job at it. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Terrence Kosick >> To: (((o))) ; teo@teo-spiller.org >> Cc: list@rhizome.org >> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 6:36 PM >> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: empty net.art >> >> empty mail art example; >> _________________________________________________________ >> Subject: >> EMPTY >> Date: >> Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:48:49 -0700 >> From: >> Terrence Kosick <kosick@sprint.ca> >> To: >> list <list@rhizome.org> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> >> "(((o)))" wrote: >> >> http://www.emptywebsite.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "teo spiller" <teo.spiller@rzs-hm.si> >> To: "Rhizome" <list@rhizome.org> >> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 1:27 PM >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: empty net.art >> >> > We knew some practices of "empty" art pieces in 20 th century: >> > >> > the Cage's composition of 2 minutes and 53 seconds silence, the >> exhibition >> > of empty canvases, the empty gallery instead of sculptures, the empty >> sheet >> > of paper instead of a poem, the book of empty sheets, etc, etc. >> > >> > but how would the "empty" net.art look like? >> > >> > Here are three examples (which is the right one): >> > >> > http://www.teo-spiller.org/empty1/ >> > http://www.teo-spiller.org/empty2/ >> > http://www.teo-spiller.org/empty3/ >> > >> > You are welcome to find out more "empty" pieces and send the link of >> it to >> > teo@teo-spiller.org _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold