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[Nettime-bold] October 1998: Sherman Rejects Genius 2000 Rapidly, almost Fearfully |
Subj: Re: Web project and copyright Date: 11/10/98 5:52:34 AM Pacific Standard Time From: twsherma@mailbox.syr.edu (Tom Sherman) To: Nmherman@aol.com Hi Nick, Of course I remember you. I just spent an evening with Cary in NYC and I asked him what you were up to. > Project." I presumed to send you and John Orentlicher a cryptic little piece > of mail art I hope you found somewhat spiritual. Yes, I got the mail. Strange little package. Sort of spiritual... > One rather sizable problem has arisen. I had hoped to use "Genius 2000" as a > quasi-corporate symbol to compete with Nike and Coke, plastering it on > baseball caps, pens, websites, novels, subway stickers, radio networks, cable > channels, and other consumer goods. Then I found there's a Y2K bug software > company with a trademark on "Genius 2000." I asked Guillermo and Cary for > copyright advice and they suggested I ask you. > > Given this prior trademark, can I use the phrase? Do you know how much it > will cost to register it as my personal art-media product brand name? Do I > need a lawyer? I'd love to have product recognition to rival McDonalds; the > irony of that would be truly worthy of the Grand Millenium. If the software company has the registered trade mark, then I'd get a different name (unless you want to double up on their identity campaigns and benefit from the double exposure of the name and the ambiguity of your name brand). Basically if you use someone else's trade mark they'll just get some lawyers to serve you papers and then if you don't retreat they'll sue. So if you're sure they're registered, then I'd just get another name and start using it. I don't know how much it costs to get a name registered, but in order to protect yourself you probably should. I know some people speculate on names and register clusters of names and then sue people who come along and encroach. It's a weird form of business, trademark speculation. Other than that I guess I don't understand why you want to do this. Name brands are interesting. We have a Chancellor here who figured out early that universities should have name brands besides their normal names--so we became the country's first and leading "student-centered research university." But you seem to want a name brand without an identifiable or categorizable product or service. Why would I or anyone else want to invest in this activity? Anyway, it's nice to hear from you. Best, Tom. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <twsherma@mailbox.syr.edu> Received: from rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v51.16) with SMTP; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:52:34 -0500 Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.20.20]) by rly-yc03.mail.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id IAA23875 for <Nmherman@aol.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:52:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from rodan.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.78544720@mailer.syr.edu>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 8:52:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (twsherma@localhost) by rodan.syr.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00827 for <Nmherman@aol.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:52:32 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rodan.syr.edu: twsherma owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:52:32 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Sherman <twsherma@mailbox.syr.edu> X-Sender: twsherma@rodan.syr.edu To: Nmherman@aol.com Subject: Re: Web project and copyright In-Reply-To: <e8df66ae.36451379@aol.com> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.981110084102.27866B-100000@rodan.syr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold