Paul D. Miller on 15 Apr 2001 16:42:59 -0000 |
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Joel - the message was a quick announcement, and there'll be more details in a little while. Dhalgren was an incredibly important novel about how American culture's conflicts during the 1960's. It is now the 21st century and we still have race riots (check out Cincinnati's riots in the news today ad yesterday.... c'mon this seems really really really really really really really obvious....), and intense structural racism. By my standards, the "Old Left" ideas that Mark represents are actually re-enforcements of all the kinds of boundaries that make those kinds of situations happen. The intensity of this kind stuff is not likely to go away anytime in the near future. I don't "hate" Mark Dery, I have total and utter contempt for the man, and I feel critics like him have held been totally detrimental to the notion of arts and letters as a place for growth and intellectual stimulation. We were editors at Artbyte (in fact I helped vote to bring him in, but that was before I had really "met" the man), and he treated people abysmally, and started an absolutely poisonous atmosphere, in which, for example, my writing was called nifty stuff like "ebonic plague" because I focused on on some the ways dj culture is altering language etc etc As an African American involved with digital culture, I found that Mark was a farce, and if you look at most of the discourse around digital culture these days, people of color are consistently crushed out of the narrative for precisely those reasons. The recent forum in Artforum magazine, for example, was a perfect example of the kind of vapor ideas Mark espouses, with absolutely nothing to back him up, but he is a white American, and he will be published until the sky falls..... If you'd like more info, I'd be more than happy to point out specifics, but the basic idea is that I really think that the discourse in the conventional critics circles is so utterly lame and one sided that it is completely out of touch with the "real" world. Basically the subject heading game was just a ruse, no more no less. But that's a minor topic. The message didn't mention Mark because he's not that important a voice in what I was talking about. Yes, I enjoy paradox, and yes you can't have the bad without the good. This seems pretty self evident. I definitely think that you didn't understand what I was writing about. No I'm not into the whole "new agey" "positive" happy feel good -ism promoted by various folks, and I don't think that my e-mail said that I was into only the "good." The future, like the present, is what we make of it. In any case, thanks for the note. okay, Paul ps, I definitely don't play "happy" pleasant sounding tunes... if you'd like, go to a place like Freenet.org and download my live sets with Thurston Moore and Yoko Ono.... ummmm or actually listen to the music before you write that kind of stuff. But anyway, hopefully this clears up what you've discussed. _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold