Nmherman on Fri, 18 May 2001 16:59:24 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: totalitarianism in cyberspace? |
In a message dated 5/18/2001 4:48:35 AM Central Daylight Time, PGalaxy@compuserve.com writes: > It is becoming clear that the internet is brining people and information > together > in real time, and do occasionally fear that forces opposed to change may > try to take that > away, but that shall not happen I dont think Chomsky has often made the claim that we in the US have a totalitarian state, one in which the consent of the governed (democracy) is manufactured and does not actually occur by any normal criteria. The hecklers at Chomsky's lectures often stand up in a rage and say "if we were totalitarian you would be in jail for saying what you just said" and Chomsky always answers "no, our totalitarianism works just fine without jailing all dissenters. They are just kept out of the corporate media, so that the information people get is propaganda." Totalitarian states don't have to persecute every dissenter, they just have to make sure the dissent is largely unheard and deniable. If facts like East Timor ever come to be, that's when the New York Times is really in trouble. Then they have to bend over backward not to report it, and this is where they leave fingerprints. East Timor was a non-issue for ten years at least, just a few conscientious nobodies writing their congresspeople et cetera. It's not just website-makers who are affected. For example, the corporate annihilation of any chance of environmental recovery goes on muy rapido every day that goes by. They don't need to kill or torture every sane environmentalist because they would merely get in trouble for it and since their policies are going along fine, why bother? It's why the big newspapers here (all the newspapers are big here, owned by say three conglomerates) only have to say "the protesters were shabbily dressed and lacked a coherent new plan to replace corporate fascism". Recently in Cinncinnati an African-American youth was shot to death while running away from police who wanted him to pay some traffic tickets. Now the Supreme court says it's OK to put you in handcuffs and take you to the station even if your crime was only punishable by fine, like not wearing your seatbelt. Once you're in the cuffs, watch out, because a lot of cops have extracurricular justice projects such as shoving painful objects up your ass, mace, kicks in the face, you name it. If Chomsky doesn't think it's wrong to use the word fascism, I tend to agree. When a Supreme Justice says that the court has lost its credibility as a protector of the constitution, I agree. What interests me is, why is it so painful or uncomfortable to use the word fascism? Perhaps guilt feelings, feelings one should be doing more, or the sense that one's material comforts are the products of a slave economy. Maybe the idea that there is no powerful nation fighting against fascism anymore is the scariest thing. Or that it snuck in under our hyper-vigilant intellectual gaze? That's a bitter pill too. I could add that fascism is rarely overthrown except by military defeat only reached at the outer limit of expansionism, a limit that no longer exists to trouble the American Empire. Civil disobedience isn't state fascism, it's intellectual fascism at worst. It's being stubborn and closed-minded: meat is murder. And if you think about it, intellectual fascism ought to be called "academic fascism" because fascism without an apparatus of coercion is merely coercion. I am disgusted by the ease with which the US media dismiss all dissent by calling it "intellectually fascist" because the protestors aren't content just to mail unprintable letters to the editor. Civil disobedience is not fascism. As for the freedom of the internet being lost, isn't it more constructive and fair to talk of huge conglomerates controlling the bulk of content while the police implement powerful, sweeping new monitoring policies? What the fascists hate is opportunities for dissent. If they are succeeding in killing as many opportunities for dissent as they need to to stay in power, then we have fascism. Please remember that I rarely if ever use the word fascist to describe anything but governments. If I don't like a curator, I call him a shit-faced cockmaster, not a fascist. George Bush, well I call him both. Max Herman The Genius 2000 Network http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/icannottellalie.html _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold