[Nettime-bold] RE: <nettime> Carnivore

["Steve Dietz" <steve.dietz@walkerart.org>]

Lachlan+
There were no legal issues that I know of regarding the presentation of
Carnivore at the New Museum. There were significant legal issues around
the presentation of Knowbotic Research's Minds of Concern and Critical
Art Ensemble's GenTerra performance. 

Steve Dietz
Curator of New Media
Walker Art Center
http://www.netartcommons.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: nettime-l-request@bbs.thing.net 
> [mailto:nettime-l-request@bbs.thing.net] On Behalf Of Lachlan Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:45 PM
> To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net
> Subject: <nettime> Carnivore
> 
> 
> Yep, Yanks. Distribute Carnvivore: Archie Bunker thinking - 
> 'arm the passengers' (his solution to the terrorist hijacking 
> threat in the 70s). 
> 
> But what about Omnivore and Dragonnet?? 
> 
> I think the use of Carnivore at the New Museum quickly 
> revealed the contractual and legal terrain of both the ISP 
> (which has legal 
> obligations to service providers 'upstream' [they colocate 
> with whom?] 
> and the employees, as well as a range of other regulatory 
> requirements) and the Museum (which has legal obligations 
> mediated by the trust to employees, users, artists, etc. etc.).
> 
> The institutional character of Internet became more clearly 
> defined. It is textual and it is legal, the outcome of a set 
> of legal requirements and contracts in civil law.
> 
> Rhizome proposes to become a 'web hosting service' (with 
> Carnivore on their server? GMAB) but is unclear on the 
> textual the legal contract and the physical location of 
> digital properties. 
> 
> >>lagging 1+ dekades
> >>lazy + konvenient in the most dangerous maniera _
> 
> Yes, we have foresight, we are cultural creatures, we have 
> memories, it is in our nature, and when all else fails we 
> have Hystoria.
> 
> chocolate nn, cacao. XX
> 
> Lachlan
> 
> 
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> 
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>      Re: <nettime> How We
>      Re: <nettime> How We Made Our Own "Carnivore" \ What 
> Rhizome.org Eats
> 
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