McKenzie Wark on Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:23:34 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Wark vs. Zizek |
Monique writes: "I have real problems with the oppositions McKenzie is activating in his Zizek critique: the fantasy of rhetoric vs. real politics??" Ah, here we go again! Criticism! It always finds problems. Everything is a problem. It never has solutions! It's not that hard to find the real politics, however. Its a question of looking in the right places. Of course, power has a rhetorical form, on this i think we are agreed. But not all rhetorical forms in the world are equally interesting or significant. Power passes through some. Others just play with the signs. And this is what Zizek does: play with the signs. If we were to look seriously at an issue like national debt, for example, we might find that it is not without rhetoric. How much debt is "too much"? What determines the point at which debt becomes surplus? Accounting, after all, is conventional, which is to say, it has a rhetorical dimension. But one that has real effects. I don't know why you are citing Althusser at me, however. I can't imagine a better name to attach to the complete and utter failure of intellectual leftism. The man was a Maoist, let's not forget, and party to some of the most monstrous misjudgements in the politics of this half century. Althusser's name conjures up not just the complete failure to achieve meaningful power of his faction within the party, but of his party within the state, and what's worse, he was an apologist for Mao's mass murder. Why leftism prefers to study only its failed ancestors is a curious mystery... If socialism is, as Healy says, "the incremental overcoming of human misery", then perhaps its best to look to the technics by which this has actually been achieved, than to the rhetorics that speak only of the extent to which it has not been acheived. k ______________________________________ McKenzie Wark http://www.mcs.mq.edu.au/~mwark Guest Scholar, American Studies, New York University "We no longer have origins we have terminals" # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net