Heiko Recktenwald on Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:19:27 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> NameSpace (get.xs2.net) banned from mail delivery |
> [I discovered this yesterday (monday) after trying to send a mail to > a friend (his actual mail-address is at Humboldt University Berlin, > obviously subscribed to this mail-abuse-"service"): > > <<< 550 Mail from 209.48.2.39 rejected; inform your mail provider or > see http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/enduser.html > 554 <xxx@xxx.xxx>... Service unavailable They had ORBS before. More or less the same. > > "spam" relay is over-reaching. We choose to > > operate an open relay and have done so for > > years, for the convenience of our mobile > > clients who wish to use it. There has only "Imagine you are traveling"..., did something on this at http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/demo/ There is a spamwar article by Lessig etc. Worth reading. Some time old. What was most surprising was that I had never heard of this war. Everything is debated in the net, from DeCSS to whatever you want, but the ORBS....if you are not a regular reader of mailabuse newsgoups for postmasters. Everybody talks about filters, how bad they are, china (which is very big and far away, btw), singapore etc, but this filter system was introduced by some users themselves. Nice case. Btw, spam is annoying. But it has also some "trash" value. Part of the infobahn experience. And I think I would allow local spam, groceries etc for their neighbors. Sotosay "spam priviledges" the way the emperess Maria Theresia helped underdevelopped villages in the alps of austria in other centuries.... Postmasters are helpless and keep their mouth. But the battle is more or less over. H. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net