Phil Graham on 7 Oct 2000 19:58:41 -0000 |
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Frank Hartmann is correct in what he says. You shouldn't take such offense because his is an important point. There has been a Heroic fugue playing for just over two hundred years [much longer really, but the genre was entirely different before that]. Its overture was played by Napoleon, whose tune killed about the same number as Hitler's Wagnerian version. You believe that had Hitler not been born, six million Jews would not have been murdered. Perhaps. But that is unlikely, and seems to me to be an historically uninformed belief. The Jews of Europe and elsewhere have been persecuted for centuries before Hitler was born. You attribute far too much power to a single person. It's as if you believe in god-like status amongst men. It didn't take long for Napoleon - sick animal that he was - to be revered as a national hero once again after his utter disgrace. Then he became the psychological archetype for the capitalist entrepreneurs of the mid- late-nineteenth century: the all-conquering genius, the little corporal, the people's soldier, the great liberator, the architect of a single system of law for all of Europe, the model strategist, the ultimate entrepreneur. Bullshit. But Hitlerian Germany and Napoleonic France were just mediocre folk tunes compared, for instance, to the Heroic music composed for Stalin's regime. Worse to me is that there are certain "civilised" and dominant "western" countries who promote their mass murderers to the World Bank and other such prestigious posts. These are "cleanskins" though, historically cleansed of sin because theirs is the currently acceptable variation on the theme of Heroic mass murder done "in the name of good, not evil" (it probably sounds something like the Star Wars tune). They say things like: "surgical precision" a lot, and brand their weapons with really nifty names cooked up by psyops and corporate marketing departments. Those regimes have mechanically murdered more people than Hitler, Stalin, Franco, Pol Pot, Mao, Suharto, Amin, etc etc etc ... put together. They will continue to do so because that is their biggest business. The atrocities in the Balkans ranks in minor skirmish terms compared to the atrocities on the Asian and African continents. But we don't hear too much about them. I wonder why ... I wonder where all the guns and bombs come from. I also wonder what you think will be achieved in terms of "balance" and "normality" (another late nineteenth century invention) if Serbia sacrifices its ex-leaders (to whom?). Will the Balkan region suddenly become something more to the "west" than an advertising billboard for the latest weapons systems? I sincerely hope so, but that will take more than merely sacrificing the "great men". I am also pleased Milosevic is gone. I never liked his wife either. My point, and I think F. Hartmann's too, is that we need to look beyond the great-villain/hero/liberator view of history that obscures the real relations that make mass murder possible and - quite obviously - desirable for *whole populations*. Otherwise we'll never understand it. Then we'll never be able to stop it. I'll start quietly celebrating when there's no more loud noises. regards, Phil # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net