brian carroll on 14 Oct 2000 13:42:21 -0000 |
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<nettime> Re: US presidential election |
Ronda, while i appreciate your response to the issue of the elections in US politics and the question of democracy, it seems that it is easy to get involved in details and lose a sense of the larger picture. thus, i'll try to respond at the scale at which i initially wrote: 2 parties, 10 parties, or 30 parties, i do not think it would make a substantial difference in American politics until other structural changes were to occur. i'm not sure if it is Italy, but some country has dozens of parties, and i believe this same country has a high- turnover rate of governments, one after the other. (correct information is appreciated) this, in my opinion, is not a question of partisanship, of Democrat, Republican, Green, or Libertarian leadership in a democracy. it is supra-partisan. it could be any party, and its inability to change the system at work. for example: i would argue that it is unlikely that any candidate, using the current system, would be able to pursue the major issues of change in the system within one or two terms, except in a state of war or reconstruction. if a candidate has a platform of change, in which all the issues are addressed, and gets elected into the position of leadership, i think it is beyond doubt that there would be special interests from every aspect of the specific issue countering any momentum that a candidate for change might make. and that is just _one_ issue. think of the dozens and hundreds of major changes that are needed, and how little gets done, if anything. most work today is cosmetic. big ideas do not work, unless they feed the status-quo way of getting things done, which feeds into the current power system, no matter what your politic is. on education. sure, we could talk about the issue of education, its importance, etc. but to me that is not the question. it is a truism, at least in academia, that education will cure all ills. the thing about the US education system is, it is not democratic in any sense. it is limited, has its special interests, garners and wields power, and is a major part of the corporate government, feeding `successful' students into the workforce, to continue the system that exists. to think that change is going to happen in the university system, from my point of view, ignores the complicity of the educational system in the reigning economy. there are exceptions, but where do the elites get trained, to replace the old guard? funny, candidates push basic reading and writing, but not thinking or questioning, as education. no auto- didacticism, but learning by Authorities. the hierarchies of power in the universities are the perfect platform for controlling the outcome of the future thinkers and doers. how many people, whom are not wealthy, can afford to question authority and challenge their teachers or the educational system, and risk losing their ability to get a sustainable wage job in the marketplace? if you do question authority, and inevitably fail because of an authoritarian bureaucracy, you have lots of student loan debts and no college degree, and a stigma that you could not compete with the other 'thinkers', whose conformance to the status quo is mainly out of self-interest and necessity. when Bush proposes 'education' as policy, it is an obvious issue of using the educational system for control and conformance and the continuation of traditional ways of seeing and doing things and the status quo. it is not about thought, but about the ability to obey established authority. common folk is probably a myth, unless it can be defined as being human beings in society. that is what is especially scary about religious use of populism, in that the candidates (or whomever's) values become everyone's values, supposedly. the question becomes, what is the price for disagreement? an argument in some cases, a debate in others. oppression, imprisonment, and death in others. sure the electoral system needs to be changed. from what i've heard, the votes of a state go to one candidate. there is no such thing as a proportional vote. it is black and white, winners and losers. whereas, a proportional system would have different candidates whom won part of the vote, as part of the government. yet, it is still questionable whether this could enable the large scale changes necessary to change the course of governance in the US. this solution is not enough to affect change in both the scale and areas needed. dozens of major changes like this are needed. again, what is the possibility of rewriting the US Constitution without massive bloodshed? slight. what is the realistic chance that a candidate of differing opinion could get _anything_ done with their administration in the current political system, even if they won the election? improbable. as for media influence. it is nothing new, and it seems to be accepted, as there is no choice, even public television is a commercialized spin cycle. how to say it... i was once watching the local 5 o'clock TV news a few years ago, a San Francisco NBC station. the news anchor stated, in some kind of nostalgic sense, `we [broadcasters] are the public.' that got me furious. i mailed off a diatribe and demanded an on-air retraction, as absurd an idea as that seems now. and i've come to conclude, from experience with many other aberrant events, that one issue which often goes unaddressed is the blurred conceptual difference between what is public and what is private. it could be a world problem, no matter what system of governance. for example, National Broadcasting Corporation, NBC, is a private corporation using publicly granted airwaves, for their private television broadcast of news and opinion. huge amounts of money and power and influence and corruption, due to the insular nature of systems of order, power, and control. to hear a broadcaster, then, say without any checks-and-balances, that they are indeed 'the public', is, in my opinion, criminal, and undermines democracy. sure, there is a fuzzy logic, and in the gray area of paradox it is partially truth and partially not, but there is no debate or discussion, just declaration. it is just the way it is. and the way it will be. private power. and the assemblage of private individuals, representing the communal public, in governance. without any sense of demarcation between what is public and what is private. therefore, it is near impossible to differentiate public from private interests in politics. it is not an easy line to draw, especially given a holistic and difficult concept as `the public' and a constitution which emphasizes the rights of individuals without reference to what is public and private, besides reference to man and mankind, privatized words in themselves. as unpopular or as popular as it may sound, i think one way to deal with this scale of change is to deconstruct the words and sentences themselves in the US constitution, by defining what is public and what is private. how else can one determine a `special interest' without having a sense of where that interest becomes privatized? maybe it is an illusion that there can be a differentiation between a public and private individual and-or group. there will probably always be a complex interweaving overlap and questionable relations to issues. yet, dealing with corporations, with religious populism, and ethnic majorities, will continue to keep the issue at the forefront. it seems probable that a future or present US presidential candidate's 'public' agenda could easily turn into a 'private' government, literally, by taking the public out of representation altogether. again, juxtaposing concepts, is it possible for privatized democracies to exist? is it still a democracy? what about the privatized communism of corporate culture, too? world over, i'd wager that private interests still and will continue to infuse public governance, and thus, public democracies will always be unrealized because of special interests, until the concepts of the public and private are legally defined, which in turn would reframe the US Constitution, amongst others. i think deconstructing language is a way to do this, using logic, reasoned debate, and public discourse in addition to protests, as a replacement for violence. but then again, it is doubtful the current establishment can be reasoned with, can be changed, in the scales necessary to enact large-scale societal and world change. thus, i refer to my original post as why this is so, as demonstrated by the current US presidential election. on democracy on the Internet. it is a myth. it is a small portion of the population, most wealthy, most educated, and most of it is likely non-political in the overt sense. sure, complaining about how corrupt Sony is, is a political discourse. but it is not going to do anything to change the larger system. i believe many discussions are not occurring in public forums which are planning to address major changes. why would one leave their strategies in the open-air, if the powers that be do not play by the rules of democracy and free speech? the Internet is *not* democratic, anymore than America is an actual working democracy because of its Constitution. free speech, without results, is not a democracy. it is a lunatic asylum. there is hope and optimism, but hey, if there is no oil, there is no Internet. if there is no war to procure this oil, there will be no free speech. what kind of deal is that? and what is the likelihood of changing this way of operation? nil. new strategies are needed. new definitions. new logic. working within the rules as they are handed down only reinforces the traditional powers that be. and their reign needs to be overthrown. not by physical force, but by the force of human reason. bc http://www.architexturez.com/site/ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net