Phil Graham on 26 Oct 2000 07:37:47 -0000 |
[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]
RE: <nettime> Palestinians as Myth |
What a strange and confusing time. The concept of globalised humanity - once nothing but a Marxist utopia - is now being pushed most hard by institutions such as the WTO, UN, IMF, World Bank, etc, etc, as well as by the most right-wing commercial institutions (by which I mean weapons- and money-mongering monoliths) on whose behalf the former (legislative) group appears to work most successfully. On the one hand, there is the celebration of nationhood by self-professed leftists who would formerly have been committed to internationalisation; on the other, we see the disparagement of nation-states as a dangerous - if not evil - fiction by other self-professed leftists. Meanwhile, humanity has never seemed (at least to me) so destructive, nasty, or farcical in its endeavours, each apparent win signifying a defeat of another qualitative kind. Humanity in the abstract has only ever been of limited usefulness. This is true at any level: "the individual", "the family", "the organisation", "the nation", "the culture", "the ethnic group", "the religion" --- all hopeless abstractions after a certain, very simplistic level of conceptual application. Perhaps this is all we are capable of in the end. Pales was a god who took the form of a donkey. Palestine is the name of a geographically (i.e. geometrically) defined space, the nature of which, as we know, is as movable as collective (mis)understandings and (dis)agreements, which are almost always mediated by violence at some point in history. As far as Judaism goes, I understand it as a religion, and thus as a relation without geographical, ethnic, or cultural borders, like Islam or Catholicism or Buddhism or whatever. I am not sure that juxtaposing the achievements of, say, Kosovars in surviving their own "rescue" by remote control carpet bombing on the part of the "forces for good" (I note Al Gore's statement in the third "debate" that 'not a single human life was lost in the Kosovo war ......... A single American life') to the South African apartheid regime under the aegis of 'national self-determination' is useful or even vaguely commensurable. Put differently, "national self-determination" is an incomprehensible term in the first place. There is no such thing. Hasn't been for decades if there ever was (I very much doubt it). So I wonder what "national self-determination" might mean. I also wonder on what basis a group would claim nationhood in the first place, if not on cultural, ethnic, linguistic, colonial, geographical, militaristic, or religious bases. Which of these - or which collection of these - would be more legitmate bases for claiming nationhood? It seems to me that we keep extrapolating clearly flawed and failed political models out to larger units of organisation, where now we can think of the earth as if we existed outside it (and some people do for periods of time), as if "it" (viz the whole of human activity) could be controlled from a few centres. Richard's comment about taking what many of us have for granted is quite clear and legitimate to my mind (but what is it that most of us have that those less fortunate do not?), especially in the context of the groups he listed. I'm not sure how you relate that comment to a regime based on the assumption that certain "types" of human beings are not really human at all. People claim all sorts of abstract rationales for killing off or dehumanising other people: democracy, freedom, racial hygeine, evolutionary or technological inferiority, economic efficiency, etc. Thus, according to dominant definitions, some people can be bombed, deprived of resources, tortured, murdered, exploited, disparaged as less-than-human, uncared for, and so on. Like I said, weird times. I doubt if we have the language or conceptual ability to explain and comprehend what is going on. regards, Phil At 06:25 PM 23/10/00 +0100, Wessel van Rensburg wrote: >The imperative of National self-determination, was the main justification >given by the Nationalist government in South Africa, when it instituted the >policy of Apartheid - 'separateness'. <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net