brian carroll on Thu, 31 May 2001 22:11:04 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> question regarding text-filtering |
hi Andreas, thanks for your thoughts. i disagree that it is just an issue of attachments and file- size and keeping it small. here's why. first, the idea of 'what is a text' today is not, in my understanding, soley defined by being ascii. maybe this is semiotics, maybe not. but textuality and things being texts (movies, paintings, etc.) has been what i consider a theoretical assumption of nettime as a realm of discursive textual praxis... thus, if an image is textual, and primarily so, yet it is still image-based, is it simply 'not a text' even though text/words may be its most prominent encoding..? two, the files could be the same size as a text, of ascii nature, and not html'd, but attached. why is a 20k image any different from a 20k text on nettime? just a question, as if there were limits upon texts and the images were themselves texts, then i do not see a clear dividing line... 3, post elsewhere. no one looks. and the text is the central discourse. so why have it be remote if the discussion is relevant for this net time, wherein threads start in the constellation of ideas, from seeing the image-(music)-text, and not offlinking to it elsewhere, as if an apparition in the collective nettime discouse... f o u r: if people don't want it, dump it. the image-text is no less valid an idea than an ascii text-image, and, in my view, the image-text could enable discussions that ascii-text could never, because of the visualization of textual content. not a call for HTML mail, of course, but it was nice to use the nettime-bold archive as an archive for the texts and i hope others will do so if they have texts which are ascii size (10-50k). as it would enable ideas that are non-ascii to permeate the realm that is ascii dominated, and in my view, ascii-limited, by ascii-logic and reasoning that keeps the text within certain predetermined loops of reason and unreasoning... so, the image-text... just some thoughts, brian # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net