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Table of Contents: ( ( ( N O M U S I C ) ) ) Open Call - Stream Audio Tournament 003 <radiolondres@altern.org> Call for Papers, The Journal of New Media & Culture Jonathan Lillie <jlillie@metalab.unc.edu> Stolen Harvest by Vandana Shiva "Lachlan Brown" <lachlan@london.com> [i love u] eurovision - may 2002 brainstorm <brainstorm@i-love-u.ch> biocapture v1.1 "Kenji Siratori" <white-b@d4.dion.ne.jp> sample movie of playing [RhythmEngine] watanave hidenori <derin@lovelink.co.jp> P O E T R Y B O X M A C H I N E IB =?ISO-8859-1?B?1w==?= Progetto per le Arti <ib-arts@dyne.org> Digital Boheme Station Rose <gunafa@well.com> 4'33" "john cage" <john_____cage@hotmail.com> Rexroth's San Francisco "Bureau of Public Secrets" <knabb@slip.net> { N e w s A l e r t } "noweb" <info@noweb.org> Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering 2002 - CFP "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com> May 2002 Le Monde diplomatique <dispatch@monde-diplomatique.fr> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 23:42:30 +0200 (CEST) From: <radiolondres@altern.org> Subject: ( ( ( N O M U S I C ) ) ) Open Call - Stream Audio Tournament 003 ( ( ( N O M U S I C ) ) ) TOURNAMENT 003 www.nomusic.org OPEN CALL TO AUDIO STREAM PLAYERS - -< Audio live only via Network - No archiv - Free pass >- - -< 24h Continuous Trans Audio (& Video) Distant Travel >- - -< Connection only on http://www.nomusic.org >- - -< Stream Audio Live MP3 / Real Video / Ogg Vorbis >- Stream start : 10th September 2002 (19h00 / 07:00pm) Stream end : 11th September 2002 (19h00 / 07:00pm) {GMT+01:00 - CET - French Time} [ADSL,ISDN,Cable min. needed for Audio+Video encoder relay] [MODEM 56k Min. is needed for only Audio encoder relay ] [REAL / SHOUTCAST / OGG Stream technologies ] ( ( ( SUBSCRIBE ) ) ) Tournament 003 Please send NFO, Links & More to festival@nomusic.org (No sound via e-mail) Join now the next World Audio Battle... info@nomusic.org festival@nomusic.org http://www.nomusic.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:54:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jonathan Lillie <jlillie@metalab.unc.edu> Subject: Call for Papers, The Journal of New Media & Culture PLEASE CIRCULATE & POST: CALL FOR PAPERS ________________________________________ NMEDIAC : The Journal of New Media & Culture (nmediac.net), an online peer-reviewed scholarly journal, is accepting paper submissions for its second issue of 2002: Summer 2002 (August 15 launch date). The submission deadline for materials to be considered for the Summer 2002 issue is July 1. NMEDIAC has adopted the mission of publishing peer-reviewed papers and audiovisual pieces that contextualize encoding/decoding environments and the discourses, ideologies, and human experiences/uses of new media technologies. NMEDIAC hopes to provide an intellectual canvas where the cultural spaces and experiences of new media are theorized and rigorously explored within both global and local contingencies of the present and past. Papers that take cultural studies, critical Internet/cyberculture studies, and new media studies approaches to analyzing new media technologies are particularly welcome. All submissions received after submission deadlines will be considered for subsequent issues. Papers should be submitted by email in .doc, .pdf, .html, or another format to Jonathan Lillie at: jlillie@email.unc.edu All submission should follow APA style and citation guidelines. There is no word/length limit. Embedded images, audiovisual media, and links to relevant web sites are encouraged. Submissions of both humanities and social science-oriented research papers and papers that intentionally bridge, span, breach, and/or blur disciplinary boundaries are also encouraged. Audiovisual new media art or presentations may also be submitted or proposed. Preference is placed on pieces that are submitted along with, or incorporate, scholarly work/research/discussions. ### http://nmediac.net ### - --- You are currently subscribed to upcs_online as: jlillie@email.unc.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-upcs_online-197777D@listserv.unc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 22:15:11 +0000 From: "Lachlan Brown" <lachlan@london.com> Subject: Stolen Harvest by Vandana Shiva Intellectual Property, genetic engineering and commercial agriculture. http://www.southendpress.org/books/stolen.shtml#links Lachlan Brown third.net (ruminating) T(416) 826 6937 VM (416) 822 1123 - -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 13:57:00 +0200 From: brainstorm <brainstorm@i-love-u.ch> Subject: [i love u] eurovision - may 2002 http://www.i-love-u.ch http://www.i-love-u.tv Last night my dear, I saw you on stage. Afterwards I took a woman up to my room. I had to. She sat herself upon me rocking back and forth violently, laughing, shaking her hair, a bottle of champagne in on hand, a broken glass in the other. But a light beam from the halogen lamp at the ceiling got caught in the sharp fragments. It caught my eye. And I remembered yours. How they were sparkling from the stage lights, applause all around, a rain of flowers showering down covering the floor with a carpet of roses. And you opened your arms wide, the light changed from red to blue, as if moonlight. And you sang. Crystal clear your voice, glasses exploding. I suddenly pushed the woman of me because my tears had began to flow and I heard myself sobbing. It lasted for about two minutes and then stopped. The woman down on the floor went quiet, staring at me in surprise. So I closed my eyes, threw the broken glass with its glitters, lights and tingles out of the window and went on making love to her, trying to forget it was not you. Maybe I will succeed some day. may issue 2002: "grand prix de la chanson de l'eurovision" monthly appearing e-zine for multimedia art, monthly changing subject, no-commerce platform for cyber-artists, photographers, screen-designer, e-musicians, movie-makers, comic-developers... visit http://www.i-love-u.ch http://www.i-love-u.tv die redaktion see editorial at http://www.i-love-u.ch Next month's theme: mona. in memory of our friend feel free to join us and to send contributions to response@i-love-u.ch ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 21:21:34 +0900 From: "Kenji Siratori" <white-b@d4.dion.ne.jp> Subject: biocapture v1.1 immediate release: biocapture v1.1 win: http://www.d4.dion.ne.jp/~white-b/biocapture_v1.1.exe mac: http://www.d4.dion.ne.jp/~white-b/biocapture_v1.1.hqx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:03:10 +0900 From: watanave hidenori <derin@lovelink.co.jp> Subject: sample movie of playing [RhythmEngine] Hello nettimers, I've uploaded a sample movie of playing [RhythmEngine], http://www.photon01.co.jp/reg/index2.html thank you for your playing! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:01:49 +0100 From: IB =?ISO-8859-1?B?1w==?= Progetto per le Arti <ib-arts@dyne.org> Subject: P O E T R Y B O X M A C H I N E i s a b e l l a _ b o r d o n i P O E T R Y B O X M A C H I N E festival electronica / mercati generali / catania / it june 7th 2002 ib _ project for the arts e-mail: ib-arts@dyne.org e-mail: temporaryproject@libero.it phone & fax 0039 0541 756229 mobile 0039 338 8456337 http:ib-arts.dyne.org (a no documentation website) http://www.poetrybox.net (artpiece) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:11:28 +0200 From: Station Rose <gunafa@well.com> Subject: Digital Boheme Digital Boheme, as defined by Station Rose in 1996: a) http://www.well.com/www/gunafa/news3.html b) Station Rose "1st Decade" Wien: edition selene, 1998, S. 120ff. ISBN: 3-85266-082-3 Best wishes from Frankfurt Gary Danner & Elisa Rose p.s.: "Gunafa" is an arabic slang word for chaos. - ---------------------------- Gary Danner (sound, concept) Station Rose hypermedia http://www.stationrose.com - ---------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 06:40:21 +0000 From: "john cage" <john_____cage@hotmail.com> Subject: 4'33" www.fourminutesthirtythreeseconds.com I. tacet www.fourminutesthirtythreeseconds.com II. tacet www.fourminutesthirtythreeseconds.com III. tacet note: the title of this work is the total length in minutes and seconds of its performance. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:03:17 -0700 From: "Bureau of Public Secrets" <knabb@slip.net> Subject: Rexroth's San Francisco Kenneth Rexroth's San Francisco newspaper and magazine columns are now online at http://www.bopsecrets.org/rexroth/sf . Sometimes chatty, sometimes scathing, but always provocative, Rexroth examined every facet of San Francisco's cultural and political life as it was happening during the pivotal period from 1960 to 1975. Partial list of contents: A Night Out in the City Beckett and Ionesco The Civil Rights Sit-ins Kabuki Theater The Tao of Fishing Why I Like Opera Why I Don't Like Jazz Festivals "Aida" and Ornette Coleman Pacifica Radio KPFA Hemingway Golden Gate Park The Film "Elektra" The Chinese Theater Victor Serge's "Memoirs of a Revolutionary" H.L. Mencken Charles Mingus Greeks and Buddhists in Afghanistan The Harlem Riots Wonder and Meditation in the Sierras Mysticism, Ethical and Chemical The Mafia Invasion of North Beach Proposals for Chinatown Bob Dylan Wine -- French versus Californian After the Watts Riot Urban Alienation Renewal Marijuana Marxism and the Persistence of Alienation The International Cultural Revolution The Provos of Amsterdam Bolshevism as State Capitalism Tintoretto and the Painters of Venice Buddhism and Hinduism in India The May Revolt in France Radical Movements on the Defensive The Ecological Revolution Women's Liberation Old Chinatown Bohemian San Francisco Between the Wars Organized Vice, Then and Now The San Francisco Renaissance The Beat Era Haight-Ashbury and the Sixties The New Rock Music End of a Golden Age * * * The Bureau of Public Secrets website features "The Joy of Revolution" and other writings by Ken Knabb (recently collected in the book "Public Secrets"), Knabb's translations from the Situationist International (the notorious avant-garde group that helped trigger the May 1968 revolt in France), and the Rexroth Archive (texts by and about the great writer and social critic Kenneth Rexroth). BUREAU OF PUBLIC SECRETS P.O. Box 1044, Berkeley CA 94701 http://www.bopsecrets.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:37:15 +0200 From: "noweb" <info@noweb.org> Subject: { N e w s A l e r t } - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - -[ [ [ N O W E B ] ] ]--------------------------------------- - -[ http://www.noweb.org ]--------------------------------------- - -[ you are under noweb news alert]------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - -( ( ( N O R A D I O ) ) ) ---------------------------------------- - -- http://www.noweb.org ----------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---*DJ PUNISHER---------------------------------------------- - ---R e v i v a l ! ! ! ------------------------------------------ - ---(advertising : only bad music)----------------------------------- - ---Tue 14th May 2002 / Mardi 14 Mai 2002---------------------- - ---Start : 09:30pm / 21h30 [GMT+01:00]------------------------- - ---Stream MP3 on http://www.noweb.org ------------------------ - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - -( ( ( N O M U S I C ) ) ) Tournament 003----------------------- - - http://www.nomusic.org ----------------------------------------- - ---OPEN CALL to AUDIO / VIDEO STREAM PLAYERS----- - ---<Audio live only via Network>--------------------------------- - ---<No archiv - Free pass>--------------------------------------- - ---<24h Continuous Trans Audio Video Distant Travel>---------- - ---<Connection only on http://www.nomusic.org >---------------- - ---<Stream Live MP3/Real/Ogg Vorbis>------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---Stream start : 10th September 2002 (19h00 / 07:00pm)-------- - ---Stream end : 11th September 2002 (19h00 / 07:00pm)--------- - ---[GMT+01:00 / CET / French Time]---------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - -< < < S U B S C R I B E > > > Tournament 003---------------- - ---*ISDN, Cable, ADSL min. needed for Audio&Video relay.--- - ---*MODEM 56k min. needed for only Audio relay--------------- - ---Please send NFO & Links to festival@nomusic.org ------------ - ---Join now the next World Audio Battle... ----------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - -* * * N E W S I T E * * *------------------------------------ - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - -*AUDIOTRACE------------------------------------------------ - ---Remote / Map / Community ----------------------------------- - ---Trans Audio Scanners on Backbones-------------------------- - --- http://www.noweb.org/audiotrace ----------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - -*GRAND HOTEL DE PARIS---------------------------------- - ---Audio Art Network Residence--------------------------------- - ---(Finale version / Full Working)--------------------------------- - --- http://www.grandhoteldeparis.com ---------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - -*D E N U M----------------------------------------------------- - ---***EN CONCERT***---------------------------------------- - ---Festival International de Musiques Universitaires---------------- - ---DENUM LE DUO & SON APPENDICE-------------------- - ---au centre Chorégraphique de Belfort--------------------------- - ---le samedi 18 mai à 14h & le lundi 20 mai à 20 h30------------- - ---more information----------------------------------------------- - --- funnyboy@evhr.net ------------------------------------------- - --- http://www.noweb.org/denum/ -------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - --> > > mailto:nonoweb@altern.org?subject=unsubscribe < < <-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 01:44:36 -0400 From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com> Subject: Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering 2002 - CFP - --- begin forwarded text Status: U Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 22:31:51 +0200 To: dbs@philodox.com, cryptography@wasabisystems.com, e$@vmeng.com, mac-crypto@vmeng.com From: Fearghas McKay <fm@st-kilda.org> Subject: Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering 2002 - CFP Sender: <dbs@philodox.com> The Third Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering Conference 28-29 June, 2002 The Signet Library Parliament Square Edinburgh, Scotland C A L L F O R P R E S E N T A T I O N S Edinburgh is again host to the international *engineering* conference on Financial Cryptography. Individuals and companies active in the field are invited to present and especially to demonstrate Running Code that pushes forward the "state of the art". STATEMENT OF INTENT In spite of the excesses and tragedies of the Great Dot Com era, we have come to the realization that the Internet, Commerce, and Technology are inextricably related. We are therefore gathered together to study, as a community, the application of Cryptograpy and Information Security to the world of Finance. For it is Finance that drives Commerce, and Commerce, in the modern era, is based on the 'net. This is a technical, practical meet. Presentations of demonstrable technology in the field of Financial Cryptography are invited. As this is a practical conference, we are hoping to accept every demonstrator. THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT This conference is about implementations. Presentations are required to demonstrate working code within the first five minutes. Note that we are delighted to accept proposals from work-in-progress projects. If your demo crashes while honorably attempting to execute, the crowd will still love you. THE VENUE Our Venue is the Upper Library, within the Signet Library, which is a listed building housing the Society of Writers to Her Majesty's Signet. This exclusive conference venue is located in the centre of Edinburgh, within the Royal Mile. ADMINISTRATION Included in the conference admission will be breakfast, lunch and tea & coffee breaks. Also included will be the conference dinner in a local Edinburgh establishment. The conference administration will block-book a convenient hotel in the centre of town. Details to be advised. NEXT STEPS FOR PRESENTERS 1. Save the dates 28/29 June 2002, Friday and Saturday on your calendar. It is good to plan on a few extra days, and especially, leaving on the day after, Sunday, will help to get the best fares. 2. Prepare your presentation. Check the evolving programme at http://www.efce.net/programme.html. Propose your presentation by mailing the Programme Chair, Rodney Thayer, at programme@efce.net. 3. Book passage to Edinburgh. Don't forget to stay a few days on either side to see the sights. Check the site for Locatives and Logistics. 4. Work on your presentation. Remember, the main rule is that you demo working code. 5. Get your budget approved / allocated / applied for. Whilst a commercial conference, accepted presenters will pay a deeply discounted fee, to be announced in a forthcoming release. For planning purposes, 200 GBP (approximately 300 dollars or 320 euros) should cover presenter's admission; the hotel should be about 100 GBP ($150 or E160) per night. Also include travel and incidentals in your budget. 6. The call for delegates -- attendees who do not present -- will by published at a later date. If there is someone in your organisation who needs to survey the state of the financially cryptographic art, they can attend as a delegate. For planning purposes, 500 GBP ($750 or E800) should cover the delegate's admission. 7. If you think the conference can benefit your organisation, consider sponsoring. Contact the Sponsorship Chair Fearghas McKay, sponsor@efce.net for more details. 8. Keep an eye on the conference web site (www.efce.net) for evolving details. EFCE2002 COMMITTEE Fearghas McKay General and Sponsorship Chair <sponsor@efce.net> Rodney Thayer Programme Chair <programme@efce.net> Rachel Willmer Finance Chair <admin@efce.net> SPONSORSHIP EFCE is supported by these companies active in Financial Cryptography: * Intertrader Ltd, an Edinburgh-based e-payments middleware and applications company. http://www.intertrader.com/ * Declarator.net, a supplier of Distributed Trust Appliances. http://www.declarator.net/ - --- end forwarded text - -- - ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:09:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Le Monde diplomatique <dispatch@monde-diplomatique.fr> Subject: May 2002 Le Monde diplomatique ----------------------------------------------------- May 2002 In this issue: ...Europe's new right; Palestine, from Jenin to Washington; Chavez, saved by his people; Saudi Arabia, people count now; Afghanistan, heading for chaos... plus health and water, victims of the global market; GMOs, the big US push; and Oz wows the viewers... A small number of these articles and our editorial are available to non-subscribers To read the rest of this month's articles go to http://MondeDiplo.com and click on Subscribe. It couldn't be easier... The plague by IGNACIO RAMONET Translated by Ed Emery <http://MondeDiplo.com/2002/05/01plague> WHAT LIES BEHIND FUNDAMENTALISM Search for a perfect world of Islam * by OLIVIER ROY We have been told for years, and especially since September, about Islamic fundamentalism. But what it is and what does it want? A new current within Islam demands to oust dominant Western culture and build another universal culture. Yet if it did that, wouldn't it be mirroring its American model, only with 'halal' McDonalds rather than the delicacies of the Caliphate? Could this type of fundamentalism be as much a product as an agent of cultural loss? Translated by Harry Forster MORE FINANCIAL AID, MORE PEACEKEEPERS NEEDED NOW Afghanistan: in transition to chaos * by SELIG S HARRISON The Loya Jirga will meet in June to appoint a new transition government, but there are still clan struggles between competing warlords; and the US and its allies are continuing operations against the Taliban and al-Qaida. Original text in English DEATH IN A GIRLS' SCHOOL CHANGES NATIONAL TONE Saudi Arabia: breaking the silence * by our special correspondent ALAIN GRESH US credibility in the Arab world will be damaged unless Washington pressures Israel to withdraw its troops from the Palestinian cities: that was the Crown Prince Abdullah's message to President Bush in Texas this April. Riyadh is worried at the build-up in the Middle East, and the feelings of ordinary Saudis are beginning to figure in the kingdom's decision-making. Translated by Luke Sandford PALESTINE FROM NEAR AND FAR A sideshow to the conquest of Iraq * by GEOFFREY ARONSON President Bush allowed Ariel Sharon to do what he wanted. Why? Because he believes Saddam Hussein's Iraq, not Palestine, is the key to the region. Original text in English Target area * by AMNON KAPELIOUK The true death toll in the rubble of the Jenin camp will never be known even if Israel were to admit the United Nations investigation team. The events of spring 2002 are already legends with terrible power on both sides. Translated by Malcolm Greenwood Voices from the streets * by WISSAM SAADÉ Translated by Malcolm Greenwood The bulldozer war by CHRISTIAN SALMON In March, during the worst of the fighting on the West Bank, a delegation from the International Parliament of Writers visited Israel and Palestine. Among the party was Christian Salmon from France. Translated by Luke Sandford <http://MondeDiplo.com/2002/05/08bulldozer> WHO RULES: ELECTED PRESIDENT OR SELF-APPOINTED CIVIL SOCIETY? Venezuela: a coup countered by our special correspondent MAURICE LEMOINE Employers, a corrupt trade union, the Church, the middle classes and the media, with the help of dissident generals, all calling themselves 'civil society', mounted a coup last month against the elected president of Venezuela, Hugo Chávez. Senior officials of the Bush administration welcomed the potential removal of a leader whose independence has been anathema to Washington. But ordinary people and loyal soldiers turned out to resist the coup. They prevailed. So Chávez stays in power for now. Translated by Julie Stoker <http://MondeDiplo.com/2002/05/09venezuela> GLOBAL MARKET IN MEDICAL WORKERS Exporting health * by DOMINIQUE FROMMEL There is now an international trade in doctors and nurses, and every year poor countries lose both the $500m that it has cost them to train health workers recruited by the developed world, and the health workers, who could be crucial to a permanent improvement in conditions in the South. Translated by Harry Forster GLOBAL MARKET IN WATER Commodifying rain * by our special correspondent FRANCK POUPEAU People in Argentina and Bolivia have begun openly to defy the two big French multi-national companies that control their privatised water supplies. Charges have increased enormously while the service has worsened. Translated by Malcolm Greenwood 'GMOS ARE HARMLESS, END OF STORY' Unfree trade by SUSAN GEORGE The United States wants the European Union to lift its 1998 moratorium on the import of new genetically modified organisms. This is one-sided free trading - as at the same time the US is adopting protectionist measures to help its steel industry. The EC, far from resisting, is doing its undemocratic best to help the US. Translated by Barry Smerin <http://MondeDiplo.com/2002/05/12trade> WHO ARE EUROPE'S NEW RIGHT AND WHAT DO THEY STAND FOR? Fascism isn't what it used to be * by JEAN-YVES CAMUS Support for the National Front in the French presidential election was not an isolated phenomenon. Throughout the European Union and in Eastern Europe, the far right is growing stronger, and the reactions to it more urgent and angry; this month successful Dutch rightwing leader Pim Fortuyn was shot dead in the street, shocking the Netherlands. Translated by Luke Sandford UNCOMMONLY RARE TELEVISION Jailhouse rocks * by MARTIN WINCKLER Television is more than cultural junk food for the masses; it can provide a platform for talented artists and creative visionaries. The American series Oz is a shining example. 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