Quim Gil on Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:27:30 +0100 (CET) |
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It would be possibly a mistake to consider "the anti-Chavez" as a single social body, also to consider that what is going in Venezuela is simply a pro-Chavez - anti-Chavez confrontation. David, a friend from Caracas, veteran of more than one Latin American revolution and skilled in socialist and capitalist economics and politics, makes an interesting point that I think is shared by millions of citizens that suported the Chavez government but not anymore: "We want to count votes to not to have to count deaths" Out of Venezuela, the mass media (and also the alternative media highly influenced by the official sources of information of the Chavez governement) tend to display a picture of black and whites, Chavez followers and golpistas (partidaries of the coup d'état). Left and right. Latin American revolutionaries and US influenced reactionaries. Etc. I'll try to translate an interesting description of the current social groups in Venezuela written by this friend here - http://lawebespiral.org/foros/viewtopic.php?topic=875&forum=4 : (quote) a) a progressist sector with social sensitiveness, divorced and out of the factors of power. They are grouped in a wide range of activist and community organizations and has the qualification needed to drive the country. They don't have (nor want to have) a "leader", in fact they are very horizontal oorganizations. b) a fanatical sector, "ultroso", totalitarist, that was defeated as a guerrilla in the 60's, that keeps the dreams from that time and what is worst: their means ("sus métodos"). It is a piramidal organized sector, with military training and possess fire weapons: pistols, rifles, machine guns, explosives... Friend of heart of Castro, lybians, etarras and the rest of the court. c) a hugue sector ignorant and manipulable, sadly predisposed to easy solutions and wishing a Messiah, that voted more for a leader ("caudillo") than a president. It is the most vulnerable sector, without access to education and stablished jobs. d) a huge mass of people that supported an option of change and was disappointed ("se vió defraudada") by the corruption, the violence, the failure to keep promises and the totalitarism. They keep themselves out of the political fight and until a while they had an insultant political innocence. They constituted "the middle class" (that is, everyone that had "a proper job"). They have gone to increase the unemployed sector in the last years. e) a sector that tries to go back to the stage left behind of the old parties, accomplice of anything that their power allow them to make. For the power they don't hesitate to agree anything with anyone, even with this regime. f) classical obscure sectors of economical power derived from the oil, the commerce and the industral activities. They supported economically the Chavez government even when they knew their tendencies (for instance, this is the case of the Spanish banks). g) the drug carteles that use Venezuela as a distribution bridge. That ¡what a coincidence! are linked to the Colombian guerrilla. That ¡what a coincidence! supports the current regime. (end of quote) I don't live in Venezuela so I'm not saying these ARE the profiles, but the picture is far more rich and interesting than the anti-pro simplification. David also asks: do you see an obscure elite of reactionaries here? http://www.mipagina.cantv.net/kidshome/ He is demonstrating in the streets these days. Like other friends in Venezuela I have. They could join your table for lunch and you will realize how much do you agree about economics, politics and the current situation of the World. Actually many of us would realize that they think (and specially they act and live) far more in the left than the leftist we know. But now they may be seen as "anti-Chaves oppositors" in the same level than military and economic elites organizing a coup d'état. Because they are demonstrating in the streets these days, because they want to stop a process of confrontation that will end up in a civil war. And they are asking for something as outrageus as... an election. One more sentence of this friend: "European friends, please take away this habit of seeing sympathetic everyone that says what you want to hear. And now yes, to the street goes now a dangerous counterrevolutionary armed with a whistle, a flag, a spoon and a casserole. I see myself ridiculous, I know, but I can't do anything else. Can you?" (Y ahora sí, pa'la calle se va ahora un peligroso contrarrevolucionario armado de un pito, una bandera, una cuchara y una cacerola. Me veo ridículo, lo sé, pero no puedo hacer otra cosa. ¿Ustedes sí?) Quim On dl, 2002-12-09 at 04:30, anastasios@hell.com wrote: > There seem to be a few perceptions of what is going on in Venezuela. > Unfortunately, I seem to read the anti-Chavez take on things in most > articles. Below are links to articles that provide an alternative view of > the chaos in Venezuela. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net