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Re: <nettime> The Wireless Commons Manifesto Felix Stalder <felix@openflows.org> Morlock Elloi <morlockelloi@yahoo.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 14:31:51 +0100 From: Felix Stalder <felix@openflows.org> Subject: Re: <nettime> The Wireless Commons Manifesto A while ago, I posted to nettime an article [1] originally written for Mute [2] on the potentials of broadband. A few days ago Michael Gurstein forwarded the post to a wireless list on which it generated the below reply. Since it co-incides with the Wireless Commons Manifesto being posted on nettime, I thought it might be interesting look again at the promise of broadband. However, there are important structural differences between a wireless commons and a broadband infrastructure, so the fact that one didn't deliver as expected does not prove that the other is doomed. Also, I think the jury on broadband is still out. So far, peer-to-peer technologies have been rather interesting, though in a very different way than the socially sensible applications referred to in the below post. Felix [1] http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0206/msg00113.html [2] http://www.metamute.com -----Original Message----- From: Don [mailto:donhome@mudgeeab.com.au] Sent: December 30, 2002 2:26 AM To: broadband-wireless@vancouvercommunity.net Subject: Fw: [BB-Wireless] FW: <nettime> where has all the bandwith gone? Hi Mike and all, This post (where has all the bandwidth gone) offers a somewhat depressing outlook for promotors of broadband wishing to provide tangible benefits for the disdavantaged of our world... "The Bad" and "The Ugly" are aptly supported by references to acknowledged security issues as well as to (the predicted / expected) monopolisation of bandwidth by a few major commercial content providers. Seeking some hope from "The Good"; with some dismay I note the only references given are to: 1) SETI - an acknowledged narrow-band innitiative which has as much to do with utilising compression technologies to better manage narrow-band as it does with distributed computing. Most SETI proponents cite the success of the project as one reason why we do NOT need broadband; and 2) Napster and Freenet... We all know what happened to Napster, and Freenet (the only example of any merit) still offers very little in terms of community development potential. After all these years the question still remains... Where are the examples of the benefits of broadband? The great hopes of broadband promotors (and I suppose myself included) over Tele-Medicine and Tele-Education have largely come to nought as commercial and cultural realities crash-home one by one. Australia has one of the best public health systems in the world and we are now into our seventh year of broadband deployment... yet we have nothing to show in the area of Tele-Health other than a few very small (and heavily subsidised) showcase models. The reality of Tele-Medicine is that providing adquate bandwidth equates to less than 5% of the project and is in itself only one of a great number of preliminary tasks (in retrospect something any competent network administrator probably could have warned us about). Tele-Medicine will never become a main-stream reality without a major re-construction of our entire medical system coupled with significant cultural change amongst medical practitioners. The true benefits of Tele-Medicine are still decades away. Tele-Education (the other great hope) is even more depressing... Last year I enrolled into a university ICT degree as (a rather mature aged) DE Post-Grad student. My expectations were to find a heavy use of ICT's by Universities in recognition that it was these same institutions who were amongst the most vocal during the '90's about the need to "network our nation" with broadband for DE educational purposes. Most universities lobied Government very heavily to invest in broadband citing a need to improve remote and distance education through the use of ICT's. They were largely successful; the network has now been in place for quite a few years; so at a minimum I expected my tuition to include web-casts and (hopefully) higher-level on-line audio/video interaction with lecturers and other students (at the very least a few Internet chat's or two with lecturers during Q&A sessions!!). The unfortunate reality is that most universities are still doing well if they provide a basic web-site and a few Email lists for the use of DE students. Most modern course material remains paper-based (and very expensive); a disturbing number of university professors and lecturers are still uncomfortable with the use of ICT's (I was amazed to find a substantial number who still do not know how to use Email or flatly refuse to receive submissions by e-correspondence for reasons of parochial or cultural inhibition); and most university administrators are seemingly unsupportive of any concept that requires an investment in ICT's to enhance student access to university services. My 'gut-feel' is that we have now passed the point where any improvements to connectivity will offer community development potential without a substantial refocus on the culture of the major end-points of our network (universities, hospitals and other public institutions). Private enterprise is obviously at the fore of network developments and services; our communities are adopting the technologies as readily as ever; our Governments are mostly keeping pace with developments and are beginning to offer a good array of on-line services... Yet our educational and health institutions are noticeably lagging further and further behind as the network continually outstrips the services they offer. This is not a funding issue; most universities and hospitals have massive Internet pipes and more than enough capacity to provide basic on-line services; it is a cultural and ethical issue requiring an acknowledgement by these institutions of the need for them to "live-up to their end of the on-line bargain". Universities in particular must be made to reassess the merit of continuing to conduct closed-door conferences and seminars; of deliberately restricting access to knowledge and services by not providing on-line accessibilities; of only publishing in "hard-print", and of only providing and/or accepting paper-based submissions - in total these actions continue to build the wall between universities and proponents of free-knowledge (ICT-based) societies. We must somehow bring these institutions into the 21st century if we are to ever help our communities develop and recoup our massive investments in broadband. I tend to think we have reached the point where encouraging even one university lecturer or doctor to converse with a student / patient by Email is probably worth more to us than laying another 1,000km of fibre-optic cable... although I suspect the cultural and power-base issues that motivates some of these professionals and institutions to not enter a more open and equal society (our on-line world), will be tough eggs to crack, and will probably necesitate some careful and considered political manouvering. Rgds, Don ----------------------|----------------- http://felix.openflows.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:08:13 -0800 (PST) From: Morlock Elloi <morlockelloi@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> The Wireless Commons Manifesto > NOTE: Anyone can sign The Wireless Commons Manifesto OK, so we are in for another reincarnation of barlowish self-aggrandizement bs. ("Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind." No shit.) This kind of drivel was what killed almost all hopes for Internet. Now you are trying the same with the wireless. Let's try to understand few facts. They are simple and obvious. > Low-cost wireless networking equipment which can operate in unlicensed > bands of the spectrum has started another revolution. Suddenly, ordinary The un-license-ness is there because of current (dis)interest and temporary benevolence of powers that be. It will go away overnight when the probability that it will truly infinge on the corporate realm exceeds 0.1%. I think that there was a slight miscalculation on the part of FCCs of the world, but nothing that cannot be remedied with a simple decree. Witness the preparations for that decree - for instance, US military concerns that 802.11* may annoy their communications. The current wifi window will close soon, as well as internet one did. Any site in the world can be taken down in few hour's time. So much for the new home of Mind. Basing any "community" or "lovers messaging" on the ephemeral mercy of the corporate world is silly. It is just helping that world to coopt whatever is left from free-range chic^H^H^Hommunity. Or maybe you have plans that I am unaware of to produce the required equipment outside state-controlled choke points ? And to provide means of undetectable use of the same ? If you don't, your enterprise is as pathetic as mold growing around a leaky pipe. When the pipe is fixed, the mold dies. And in the process you will harness enthusiasm and energy in vain, on the false premises. ===== end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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