porculus on Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:16:30 +0100 (CET) |
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> After living in Paris for almost a decade, I have come to cherish the > palpable existence of a 'public', of the public thing, res publica, > that everyone belongs to and can contest the politicians' claim to > own. I knew something like it when I grew up in Manchester after the > war and I thought it had gone for ever. I would like to see a real > debate about how such a social vision might be affirmed while > responding to the deep causes of the riots. But I am not holding my > breath. & you were right so much it's bad for rosy & lovely complexion. ho you could see these 'riot', these blue nights, as said corsican as an 'appeal to', i mean for the moment suchexpression respect some 'protocole'. 'an appeal to' mean it could exist an interlocutor who could 'decode' the message up the even law itself, kind = of nation that do them etc. it's possible you are right & many hope so. afte= r all to show the force of doing it as something as a national sport, there= is for the moment rather exceptionnal few human dammage, even if one cant neglect them of course, is some proof of it. i mean of the still existenc= e of your res publica for all, but what about its pretorians so said for al= l ? juicy called 'the gallics' by those who stigmatize this french 'deep core= '. but as you know 'our ancestor the gallics' as french school learnt, up t= o the equator circle sometimes, without any doubt of ridicul during the tim= es of colony was even not true for 80% of the metropolitan french population..was in some way a white lie, a 'white' lie for this common re= s publica you praise, i mean able to take also recent colonial historie as part of all..this job done for making at last real national politics : seeing more than less that the burning car sport take place in place of higher unemployed rate (3x or 4x the national average). it's simple. but 'gallic' could shine now also as a word of back fire to deny this ridicoulous nation of gallic that even cant count its own except in a show of of contempt & denial & scorn for those who believe to such inanity good enuf for trapin= g & fooling the had idiots, enuf idiot for burning their own car or those of their relative. in other words does it exist the times of our ancestors = the gallic or is it just a sinister comic strip politic for old people club &= a sale pitch for flogging plunk & lvmh trinket... ..zis super long blah, coz i see a real link with the no vote to the european constitution (both then in zis 2 ways transposable of course) which was not just to shoot in ones' foot no more, cause it was so said = a geste against one's own interest too: is it existing our european 'res publica' or is it an hackneyed refrain, an all damien hirst design set furniture for old people's house made for aging & diing quiet as a club of the 120 journees & apres moi le deluge? # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net