nettime's diplomatic corps on Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:22:52 +0200 (CEST) |
[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]
Re: <nettime> re: nuclear diplomatic track [4x] |
Table of Contents: Re: <nettime> re: nuclear diplomatic track "Benjamin Geer" <benjamin.geer@gmail.com> Re: <nettime> re: nuclear diplomatic track brian carroll <neuron@electronetwork.org> Re: <nettime> re: nuclear diplomatic track "Benjamin Geer" <benjamin.geer@gmail.com> Re: <nettime> re: nuclear diplomatic track brian carroll <neuron@electronetwork.org> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:34:18 +0200 From: "Benjamin Geer" <benjamin.geer@gmail.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> re: nuclear diplomatic track On 14/04/06, brian carroll <neuron@electronetwork.org> wrote: > or, maybe this is the pre-existing condition of the last 40 years, > via the rise of a particular dynasty, Although I agree that American democracy leaves a great deal to be desired, and has been taking an increasingly authoritarian turn, I think it's still a far cry from the sheer brutality of typical military regimes towards their own citizens. In the US you can organise meetings, publish articles criticising the government and take part in demonstrations. In Syria, for example, which experienced a series of military coups since 1949, culminating in Hafez al-Assad's 1970 coup, you can get arrested, tortured and imprisoned for decades just for being suspected of opposing the government, e.g. just for attending a lecture on the emergency law, which has been in effect since 1963.[1][2] > and this condition would merely > be to transfer it from a private to a public realm, Outside the present state institutions in the US, does an organised public realm currently exist that would be prepared to assume power in a more responsible manner? If you think the answer is yes, what is it and how does it work? > in which the > state could both be abolished by constitutional authority What part of the US constitution provides for abolishing the state? Moreover, the constitution is the basis of the flawed democracy that you reject; it would seem to follow that the constitution itself is deeply flawed. > the military take the constitution seriously when they are dying for it The rank and file are dying, not the generals. In a military coup, it's often the generals who take power, precisely in order to replace the constitution with something more to their liking. Ben [1] "Syria: 41 years of the State of Emergency", Amnesty International, 8 March 2004, http://tinyurl.com/l2hg4 [2] "Syria Under Bashar (II): Domestic Policy Challenges", International Crisis Group, 11 February 2004, http://tinyurl.com/f8jzx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:42:11 -0500 From: brian carroll <neuron@electronetwork.org> Subject: Re: <nettime> re: nuclear diplomatic track hi Benjamin, yes, I can understand that taken from such a perspective that this may indeed be considered to be the case. another view to consider could be taken from 'the constitution' of the state itself, that is the creation of government and laws, upon certain given principles, and then over time the devolution of this into its anti- thesis- which for democracy is dictatorship, beyond rule of law. this devolution of the state over the last half-century (via the military-industrial complex, say) may have driven the final nail into the coffin of .US democracy as it was originally conceived, when the rise of the corporate citizen took precedence over the human citizenry, in the representation of public affairs of state. this transfer from a once 'public' mankind, of citizens, became foundational for the privatization of the state based upon the 'private' corporation acting as if were representing 'the public.' this is to say that, by the way that the constitution is framed it would be considered a 'limited' view of what exists as a public realm, within a 18th century contextualization of such an idea. that is, laws that exist today were written by private mankind, and use reasoning which distorts a larger public point of view, and that these have created loopholes (bugs to be exploited), in which the Constitutional can become a tool of oppression. that is, if the bugs are not fixed. one such bug is the idea of a 'citizen.' where, today, a corporate citizen or human citizen can equally co-exist in interpreting the constitution of state. that is, within the .US, there may well be a democracy in a formal sense, yet this democracy has become a competition between various citizens and their constituents. and this has placed corporate citizens in contest with human citizens, in which a social darwinist 'survival of the fittest' situation has evolved in the culture and the state itself, i.e. government. and, time and again, it is this 'corporate citizen' who has won representation in places traditionally meant for human representation of human issues. this situation could also be broken down in terms of public/private aspects of citizens, where corporate citizens may at times represent a public view and human citizens, a private view, on some situation, yet this public/private dimension could equally be reversed, so that there is some ambiguity in terms of representing a clear and cohesive view of what is a 'public or private' view of a given citizen or on a given issue, as it splits across a huge divide of public/private corporate and public/private human interests. and the state, to govern effectively, would need to be able to 'reason', via some enlightening insight, how to navigate this situation so 'citizens' direct the state in a way that is in line with democratic self-representation. this idea of self-governance via representation has been changed since the .US constitution of the state, in that with the rise of mass media, the 'traditional' process by which a human represents a given constituency has increasingly become detached by way of the 'electronic' mass media. this has effectively created a short-circuit in terms of how 'representation' in the state is mediated, i.e. governance. in that, what were once 'checks and balances' upon the process of representation between citizens and state are today 'mediated' by middle-managers, the mass media, who happen to be corporate citizens, with self-interests. thus, what is represented and what can be represented is within the 'rights' of private corporate-citizenry to decide. this filtering/editorial aspect creates a boundary or bubble, in which a larger 'public' reality is defined, for 'the masses' which make up the modern industrial state at national scale. this is actually a limited view of events, given by corporate- citizens, as to what is going on, as seen from their viewpoint. in this sense, it is to enframe issues in their own worldview, as they see it, represent it, and broadcast it, often one-way. thus, what is represented in today's state as being a public viewpoint of given events, (i.e. 'the status quo' on the news) is actually a private representation of what is going on in the state, as seen by corporate citizens of this democratic state. this could be considered 'reality, incorporated' by those who define what will and will not be included in this representation of affairs, and the perspective given to consideration of events. therefore, it is in such a private 'reality, inc.' that a version of events gets distributed to the masses as a representation of what is going on, which is based upon a private point of view. what is significant is that this 'mass media' presents a private point of view of events, and that it is also itself a private citizen in the government, which seeks its own self-representation of its (corporate) constituency. that is, in the way that the state is now constituted, 'citizens' compete for representation of views, and it now is situated such that corporate citizens are in direct competition with human citizens over views of events and how they are represented, both in the media and in the government. the other aspect to this situation of 'Reality, Inc' in mass media is that 'the media' is not a formal branch of government yet it functions like one, in terms of providing 'checks and balances' upon given representations of events between citizens and state. (the 'poll' may function in some way as a referendum, etc etc etc, which could be considered an electronic petri diesh of populism.) the problem is that the mass media is not 'democratic' in either its operation of what is represented or who is representing it. the news anchor talks as if they are a citizen like any other, who shares their perogative on events. yet they are instead a gradient between the corporate citizen and the human citizen, existing in- between these two. in this sense, their are a human technology of a sort, cyborgs in a sense, which is part human, part machine. the representative of mass media is thus, part corporate and part human citizen. and what they represent is oftentimes largely the biased view of the corporate citizenry, as to events, interpretation, and values conveyed through this representation of mass media. as representatives of corporations, and their citizenry, this is not happening by way of voting in those who represent this 'reality, inc.' and instead it is to accept what is placed there for the public to digest in terms of point of view, which is largely based on the private economic (capitalist) point of view of what is going on. in this sense, it is a representation of the state of affairs by a built- in aristocratic class of corporate citizens and their representatives. so, none of this is regulated in terms of its influence upon the governance of state, by the 200+ year old constitution. this is a situation which has evolved into what it is, yet the basic relation between citizens is that of a traditional conception of events, as if we are in an 18th century reasoning and subsequent reality. that is, through the non-differentiation between human citizens and corporate citizens, this can go on as if nothing has changed. the major problem is that, corporations are (literally) machines. so that, in terms of competing for constitutional self-government, it places this machinery (and its values) in direct competition with human citizens, for representation of issues, and for governance. this is by default, not by intention or planning- and the limits of ideas to model this and modify the constitution accordingly, so as to differentiate the legitimate citizenry and to design balance between these branches of citizens, extends throughout affairs of the state, from labor relations pitting workers against industry, to having mass media functioning against ideas of democracy. all by default. by not being able to model this as a real condition that goes beyond the original 'framers' point of view of events. this is why the strict 'constructionists' and literalists are often- times speaking directly to creating a dictatorship of democracy, because in the traditional view this is what is rationalized as the good, while in this new context (electromagnetic, as presented) these same actions have become tyranny and are oppressive. this is an issue of the state as a living organism, as constituted. something which function as a feedback-based lifeform in the world environment, among other states/organizations, and it becomes an issue of how this state is going to govern itself. by what sentience is the state being guided in its decision-making, for instance? because, it is at this point that, the constitution as it exists, has allowed ascendancy to machinic-values systems in which people have become raw material, natural resources, for the planning of this machine of state and its future evolution. that is, 'governance' may have become separated from 'human' values along the way, in its long-range planning for domination and survival, which has also become detached from checks- and-balances of its human citizenry, yet this is believed to be unchanged during the massive transformation of perceptions in the last hundreds of years, and a traditional view remains-- this is to say that the mass media can effectively short-circuit the human accountability, by supposedly representing its own version of events (which are private corporate perspectives), and this is assumed still to be the trajectory of a human state and its democracy, and not that of a corporate democracy in which corporations are who are represented in government, and this democracy of human citizenry is only vestigial, as it is based on some faith/belief in an overriding enlightenment of inviolable views and principles shared within government. that is, human democracy is only simulated by mass media, which bypasses this functioning and instead represents the corporate democracy via its own corporate citizens who are 'public' representatives of the mass media, who represent a corporate democracy, by and for corporate citizens and their democratic state. this is corporate democracy, at its worst, could devolve into a corporate dictatorship, that is, even tyranny where even that last vestige of democracy is lost to the brutal truth that machinery may instead now be governing the state, and may be functioning on autopilot. this is to say that, if you gave a cybernetic machine the rights of citizenship, then you evolved this situation over a period of 200+ years, in which human citizens are placed in direct competition with corporate citizens in terms of their representation in the state and the governance of this state, that it is possible that the values driving the state could be dehumanized, as they evolve, in the world environment, in such a way that this is a natural evolution of the state in a constitution, as it is framed, via exploitations of its coding (language, logic, laws, functions, definitions, etc). it is in such a case as this that an event like 9/11 may be seen as not being only within an irrational view, but purposive for these other goals, these other constituencies, involved. and that this may not, at some point before-present, even have been an issue of 'free will' but instead of necessity, of the state to function as a cybernetic organism, and to seek out its own future as a machine in the world garden or wilderness what have you. this is a much longer essay i am in the middle of writing, (on the last section now) and issues such as these can be related to Lewis Mumford, etc. the aspect about this 'constitution' then, is that it both is able to constitute the state, as it exists, and thus it is what provides for government and governance- it is what relates the individual to the state, and vice-versa. it autogenerates much of what exists at the base level of what now goes on. in such a situation as today, with Neoconservatives et al, it provides lessons for what to do about internal and external insurrections within such a state. it gives basic direction as to what is not acceptable in terms of a democracy. thus, it provides clarity with regard to where to draw the line, and how serious it is. now, just for sake of example, imagine if Neocons were as horrible as the Nazis were during WWII, and yet this is all hidden behind the mask of mass media, and what is project to the masses is a simulated version of events, as they actually exist- and imagine that, instead, it were possible that the Neocons were actually terrorizing the .US citizenry, yet this is not how things are represented. and, let's say that these Neocons are actually 'in charge' in the government-- they are the 'democratic representatives' of 'the people'-- by fiat of voting, polls, news, and money. and it is all legitimate in this simulated realm where the traditional view holds sway over interpretation of events, and the ideas are taken as if the 18th century never left. it is possible that the government could become a tyranny, even a corporate dictatorship, yet be represented as if it were a human democracy of human citizens, which bases its actions on the good will of .US humans onto the others. such as the exporting of democracy through torture camps. at some point, there is a split in what is presented as the 'reality, inc' in the mass media, versus the constitution itself, and what it is commonly believed to exist for in its functioning. that is, at the level of 'reasoning' and public debate, that it would be possible to provide checks and balances upon this reality, of how the state is governed and thus how individuals are governed, by way of investigating the logic of the ideas involved. that is, is torture a right of the democratic citizenry? and this argument can go down to the core principles as they are constituted, and this then can be debated in government. excepting that this 'public' debate is not able to occur in the government because it is occurring instead in private mass media, in a context in which corporations operate within a realm of self-interest and profit depends on their complying with the status-quo of the government as it is now constituted. or they'd be out of business. evolve or die, as is often said. the mass media, instead, determines what is represented, what is debated, what is heard, what is considered 'real' in their private spheres of influence, which make up a pseudo- public state of affairs as they now exist. thus, if the 'reality, inc.' turns out to be in-line with the Neoconservative version of events, that is, 'Neocon reality, inc' via newspapers, TV, radio, books, blogs, etc. that it creates a situation in which traditional representation of human citizens can become bypassed by mass media which represents a 'status-quo' view of events, with built-in bias, which may both function against the interests of human citizens in this state, and also against the constitutional democracy, in carrying out its agenda in such a way beyond democratic checks-and- balances for this unchecked and unbalanced power, and what amounts to the ability to concentrate power, of the mass media, of the power systems, and bureaucracies, outside the purview and view of citizens. all of it natural. pre-disposed to doing so. by fiat of the constitution itself. thus, in the Constitution, it is said one should call for a 'constitutional convention' to fix the problems with the constitution should problems arise. excepting that, what if the 'representatives' are only for corporations within the given government, and have no self-interest in serving a human constituency, as there is no profit in doing so, only loss? what if you were to call a constitutional convention and not only did nobody come, but everyone laughed? that is, it is only a slight tweak here or there that is wrong, not something as obtuse as the constitution itself which may be generating structural problems, which themselves may evolve into events such as 9/11, by fate or necessity. and what if the main enemies for doing so, for changing this state as constituted, become the representatives of this state of affairs as it exists-- even the elected leaders of this simulated 'reality, inc' and its false shadow plays? what if there are people who've chosen allegiance to the machinery, at the cost of sharing a basic humanity with other citizens in the state, and thus became a certain type of human technology which are optimized based on certain values which are in-line with this (mega-) machinery of state. which, in fact, has become dehumanized in its very evolution. and that the 'sentience' of such persons may be more in line with robots or machines than with traditional human values, in that the way ideas are considered may be computational, to get from point A to point B, via routes that machines take, outside of human governance, or constitutional democracy. the issue here is what if the constitution has been exploited and its failure to adapt to changes has created the problems of the present, yet the traditional processes by which to re- claim human governance in the state are void of influence in that they are considered 'unreal' in the private 'reality, inc.' as it exists? that leaves few options. imagine that 'insurrectionists' were, in fact, in charge of the government itself, then. and to go about petitioning them to change any of what is going on, at a basic level, at the core of the ideas which generate this. it is impossible to consider this 'democracy' and not tyranny. and in the successive 'fall' of the branches of governments to corporate citizens and their representatives (white house, courts, congress) it is the complete transfer of power from the human citizens to the corporate citizenry, and then to a corporate dictatorship within these, as the policy of the state becomes based on the 'reality, incorporated' by these citizens. the white house becomes run by CEOs, the courts become bastions of (dehumanized) corporate law, and the congress becomes corporate representatives which on any given issue get to choose between corporate and human views, in binary decision-making in a totally saturated ideological environment. take Enron, for instance and energy policy planning. VP Cheney was able to have secret meetings with Ken Lay and others in the energy industry, which mapped out energy planning out- side of public interests (such as fuel efficiency, pollution, global warming), and this became .US _public policy when it is entirely _private policy of corporate citizens, and limited access and in- volvement of .US citizens in state planning, to only private views. this short-circuited events which led up to the Iraq war, no doubt. and when the election in California between Gore/Bush went on, the lights were going out, by the hand of Enron, etc. it is to add that when the time came to open up this inquiry, congressmen like Sen. Joe Leiberman vociferously defended such things, as being on the level, etc, all legal and part of government working, enough to make a special trip to a small island in California, no less, to defend against claims of government surveillance of citizens who were looking into what was going on, pre- and post 9/11 events. etc. so, there are congressmen who are providing legitimacy to policy in terms of energy planning and its connection with larger issues. for example, war as it was engineered by the Neoconservatives. the senator represented the corporate citizens in this case, and the human interests were considered suspect against the state. that is, human democracy would imperil corporate democracy. then, you've got citizens and groups calling for opening up this energy policy and it goes to the courts, the Supreme Court, in which a key decision to open up these meetings is blocked by Justice Scalia, also part of this same network of persons who shared a certain ideology about how things work in this state. their lack of recusing themselves ends up blocking public access to these private meetings, which ended up bringing the nation to financial ruin in terms of the billions lost to Enron scandal, and potentially the ill-fated adventurism in Iraq, tied into oil. that corporate citizens become the measure of the law within such a constitutional democracy makes it all a non-issue, if it disregards the critical need for human checks-and-balances over the direction government is taking in the citizen's names, and in their lives, as the blood that has flowed is theirs, not that of cold corporate machines where this exists only as abstraction. so you have, in .US energy policy, absolute and total corruption of constitutional law based on human citizens, not corporations, and what happens is that all three branches of government are representing and protecting and defending this corporate citizen and their democracy, which is being represented by mass media. which then has to break the news to the lowly human beings who occupy the state, not as its masters, but as slaves of 'reality, inc.' this 'reality, inc' still today is largely that of a Neoconservative point of view, because it is in the self-interest of corporations to continue on autopilot, to make profits where they can be made, while citizens need to wrest back control of the state, so as to guide it away from crashing into more rocks, which it constantly is going to do, until the state can be abolished and reconstituted, so as to provide balance between corporate and human citizens, and their governance, both locally and in the world organization. a major problem is that "nationalism" is fundamentally against this. so too are fascists who may be in control of the government, in its various forms, whether formally or informally (media, industry, etc). one possibility is that this is a matter of 'intelligence' of evolving states of affairs, and the ability to model what is going on, and to provide better options where none may now exist-- so as to give 'free will' to decision-making, to allow different futures or possibilities than those only offered by the past (say, in the 18th century no less). it would seem that the machinery of state is largely unintelligent, and having a difficult time adapting the old ideas to new environs, without having the insight needed to transform itself. thus, it is to do only what it knows to do. which is industrial modernism as its ideology, which is largely automated development of machinery. whether it is humans who are developed or the state or natural resources, it makes little difference to the planners or the plan. its amorality or even immorality is guaranteed. and ideologies of science and technology, and science-fiction in particular, weigh in as useful conduits for making citizens salivate for false utopia. (or if the state is intelligent, it is a machine-intelligence which is guided its decision-making rather than human intelligence and insight into how to develop itself and govern itself in the world. it could become purely materialistic, as a machinery of state. there could be no respect for the mystery or meaning of living. it could easily become functional, routine, an issue no longer about governance or growth of the people, but of management of this method, this way of doing things, this path of evolution, which by being falsely limited could become its own devolution. in that it cannot adapt to changes, in terms of its own modeling.) in any case, imagining the state is 'governed' by corporations which are actually a giant cybernetic organism (cyborg) which is part-human part-machine and this is where a human-citizen is supposed to petition this government for changes, when in such a scenario there exists no need for any changes given the point-of-view and self-interest of the corporate citizenship, and further that some in this dehumanized mechanism may enact godlike powers over the state, and over human citizens, so that the power of an individual to influence this state is now largely fictitious and part of the myth of a democracy which is no longer existent in the government as it is currently operates. that, ideas like petitioning government for opening up energy policy meeting minutes is stopped, in the name of the rights of corporate citizens and their privacy, etc. and, that it is this same class of citizens who may oppress humans who try to engage their government, in a social darwinistic environment. such that this sets up a conflict between the citizens in this state, and who and what gets represented, and how and why. in this sense, there is an ongoing war between citizens which is trying to direct the state towards needs of its constituency and the corporations have 'won' the .US government as it now exists and the human citizens are locked outside of its processes. and, in this situation you have a volunteer-based military in which human citizens sign-on to protect and defend the .US Constitution which legitimates and autogenerates this state. and they are fighting and dying on its behalf-- and yet, is the state governing on their behalf, or another agenda altogether? do the principles which are driving the .US decision-making actually line-up with the .US constitution and human needs, or has this been subverted for another agenda, both of the corporate citizens though also of an agenda beyond the .US, which has become a proxy for ideas that have nothing to do with the .US, its constitution, democracy, freedom, or peace? because this is an important difference if the .US constitution has been voided in the actual practice of the operation of the .US government. it makes the government illegal by way of the constitution itself-- it betrays its own principles, by letter of the law and by its spirit, if the goals pursued by the state are those of insurrectionists who are acting against the state itself- against democracy, itself, against the constitution, and against the citizenry, in the pursuit of their own private goals. legally, if such a state simply is to be allowed to continue to do what it is doing, automatically, its functioning is against the state itself. that is, if its operation is unconstitutional it is no longer the role of the .US military to protect and defend those who pursue this unconstitutionality, -- it is instead their role to protect and defend and preserve the constitution itself. if doing so requires abolishing offices of federal government, potentially occupied by insurrectionists who are carrying out another agenda entirely that has subverted .US government, it would be the patriotic duty of every American citizen and in particular of every soldier to reclaim the office of government for its citizens and their self-representation, so to ensure their survival. for else, it would be to lose all the preceding sacrifices made to retain the ideas of such a democratic state, and hand it over to an unthinking, unfeeling, automated machinery which manages this situation as it turns increasingly into armageddon. it would be the right of a citizen to call for such an action, if, in lieu of a constitutional convention (being an impossibility) it was necessary to stop the further deterioration of the state in relation to its founding principles, in terms of public reasoning and debate using facts and with respect for truth and its value. the point of doing so is not to seize control over the democracy, it is to stop the automatic devolution into tyranny and dictatorship that 'naturally' exists, as it has evolved, because of the nature of events as they have changed in the last 200+ years and the in- ability of the constitution to adapt to these, and to modify core concepts such as citizenry in an age of cybernetic organisms (human-machinery) and a recontexutalization of space and time in lightspeed networking, mass media, and the like. such change has come about through electromagnetism and its development and it has indeed changed the nature of reality, the nature of logic, and even truth itself. yet none of this is 'accounted for' in the constitution, and the perils are found in current events. if the state were to prevented from further deterioration, it will be possible to reclaim 'democracy' for human citizens, and in balance with corporate citizens, after a constitutional convention could be held and this taken on in terms of a great debate of a new modeling of our environments and ourselves and our state. it would influence not only the functioning of .US government, such that it may be that most large departments could be made into a 'department of infrastructure' where economics and tele- com and transportation are placed into some ecology relation (where broadband policy goes along with climate change policy with fuel efficiency, with tax laws, etc) - it would also be scalable to global/world institutions and establishing a more fair, equitable balance between states in the shared world organization, such that the rebuilding of the WTC could be seen as an opportunity to begin building such new relations between citizens, so as to redesign the basic 'constitutional' relation not between man and machines or man and gods, instead- between human beings in a cybernetic organization, which includes corporate machinery, who both have public and private dimensions that require new balance and greater cooperation to engage issues as they exist. thus, the idea of 'governance' being based on the constitution of an individual person or collective state would scale from human citizens to the collective state, and beyond the .US this could be the foundation for new world relations in a complex multi-polar environment which is based on building peace and prosperity. taking back control of the .US government by public citizens is a key to this because there is no intelligence in government as it now exists as a private corporate entity- it cannot do the right thing, no matter what happens-- it is only able to manage as it is, it cannot transform itself or even think/imagine/see for itself. this requires human beings, who with their constitutional rights, have the obligation to do this, for many have sacrificed for their opportunity, which remains unclaimed as to the greater goals. that is, outside of the individual self and its narrow view of things. that citizenship goes beyond the private domain, to a civic duty, an obligation to improve things for the next person, and those who may be out of sight, but are not out-of-mind, for those who are human beings and do not accept people as mere mat=E9riel. there is every opportunity to invert this situation by claiming it as our own, as our right and our duty to take this challenge on and to do not only the right thing- but the necessary things to provide for those who come next-- * no matter the sacrifices * that is the price of life. the price others have given for us to live. and if we don't live, and don't live up to our obligations, we have failed. we will have failed as human beings to transcend apes and machinery as our reason for existing, and our only purpose. if this situation is transformed into one of human governance, in which the state can be reconstituted along more realistic modeling of events, and transform decision-making so that it works on many scales, for many constituents, yet remains in a balance that today does not exist and leads only to a business plan of 'endless war', then it will be possible to address climate change, pollution, energy, illiteracy, poverty, genocide, from within the democratic functioning of government in which people add up to a larger intelligence, and in this formation of governance, can successfully engage and adapt to these situations, to shape them for the better of the human state, whether it is a local state or the global state, that both human and corporate citizens work for one another and all benefit in doing so, and not against eachother in this mindless zero-sum competition. that is what is at stake, by allowing the status quo version of events ('reality, inc.') to define and represent this situation, everyone can believe this is constitutional democracy when it is in fact not this. and the right to reclaim this government is particularly important to those who are dying on its behalf. that is where the honor is found, in upholding the principles and if they are betrayed, to reclaim them. the state, after all, is an idea that is shared by individuals, and to accept the state today as it exists would necessitate equating the dysfunction of today's affairs with some idea of human democracy. which is nonsense, or even insane. the state people believe in, die for, the one that is constituted in the individual self and scales up to a larger collective state and its reality, is the one that ceases to exist. it is only held within the minds who believe it is the actual state which we owe our allegiance, and indeed, our lives to, as human citizens. and to call upon people to take back their government, is to call upon people to take back this government within themselves, their own critical abilities to model what is going on, instead of having it spoon-fed by distorted corporate ideologues with political agendas. what the hell is life for, if not for living? and what is government for if it is not for governing? well, it could be a good business, etc, yet that is not 'constitutional democracy' as it was originally intended. under no reasonable interpretation could what exists today with- stand a critical review of its functioning as if the original principles. that is where the Constitution, law, logic, truth, language, facts, and reason become important in such a duel of realities, of governance. this can all be (and has been) successfully argued, in detail, in depth and breadth, and defeat the existing positions en masse and one by one, to provide the impetus for legitimating such decision-making whereby the .US military legally can and should reclaim the public government for the public citizenry and dissolve the .US government until a constitutional convention can be held, and then to hand over this temporary management to its newly balanced civilian leadership for self-representation-- anything short of this will eventually and likely immediately necessitate coming back to this fact, that is inescapable- that the .US government is a failed system and the constitution is both part of the problem and vital to the solution and must be dealt with. how this happens when you've got threats of bird flue and anthrax and terror bombings and assassinations and death threats going on is anyone's guess. I believe that the .US constitution provides a way to engage this, responsibly, and its adaptation to the present day will provide a model for other states and world organization, so to better model and build for and develop our world the way we now need to. including transforming the worldwide war of terror into the issue as it actually exists, a mideast peace which will begin this new ordering. I've written a book-length online essay on this, which provides a much better overview that this, by looking at it in more detail and from a wider viewpoint, yet the conclusion is the same: that if the issues such as New Orleans rebuilding are to be dealt with, which includes poverty, racism, and corporate profiteering at the expense of the human public- that this is not an issue of political management but a structural flaw in the way the state is programmed and responds and that this is originating out of the constitution itself and its coding, which, unless changed, will not change the outcome of redevelopment in New Orleans, only copy the pre-existing patterns, extending them anew. that is, that there are elements of racism built into the .US constitution that are carried over from days of slavery, and this is seen in the response to the hurricane and its aftermath. that this is part of the 'constitution' of the federal state yet also the individual state, that in this self-limiting privatization, that the commonality of citizens has become that of class, race, and demographics and not of a shared identity beyond this. it is instructive when the .US president Bush says that his first loyalty is to his family, while he is in supposed to represent the entire 300 million .US citizenry. it would be to place his family before all others in his decision- making and in his view of his responsibilities to others, that is, his private family takes priority over the needs of the .US public. that his first loyalties are not to protecting the .US citizens, and this can be seen in other employees and elected officials whose views may be of loyalties which are also not firstly to .US citizens, and instead to another country as was seen in this last .UN vote, where the .US position is equated with that of the position of .IL. at the level of grand strategy, this is treason at its most clear. and it is unacceptable and must be stopped from continuing to represent a public that it holds no allegiance to, nor its principles. the .US government exists to self-represent .US citizens and their needs, and this has been short-circuited and is the cause of the 'war of terror' and is itself terrorizing citizens without consequence. as I said in a telephone conversion after 9/11 -- I would like to find out who perpetrated 9/11 and put their heads on sticks. it is ironic that Cofer Black repeated my exact words days later in a Senate Testimony regarding going after the shadowy terrorists. and President Bush has often said: "we must fight the terrorists over there so we don't have to fight them here". there is only one problem with this-- what if the terrorists are indeed "here" and our military is 'over there'? and what if the terrorists who are terrorizing the .US homeland are somehow tied in with the Neoconservatives? such that, when you go to protest a public rally and get anthraxed that this is your friendly neighborhood fascist government at work. well, whatever the case, if such terrorists do exist here, there are plenty of people ready, willing, and able to start putting heads on sticks in this cosmic war of good against this dehumanizing evil. and there are some very good suspects that fit the profile of the terrorists-- violent extremists who are ideologically out of place. and what i am saying is that it is time to start doing something about this, by taking a stand, and fighting for our lives, because if we don't, we die. and if we do fight, we have a chance of living out our greatest dreams, and sacrifice is involved and we must start to do more, expect more, demand more of ourselves, as it is all possible, it only requires one to believe they are not alone in such a dark place, and that there is a way out of here into a better day-- and we have friends around the world ready to help. the .US is going to get back on its feet and the .US military is in the position to make this happen. and they are obligated to do so. that is, if the constitution, democracy, freedom, individual rights, and the greater good have any meaning left in our very souls. and I'm willing to bet my life, as are many others, that we can work through this and unleash our capacities far beyond the limits this falsification of events has led us to doubt ourselves. a toast-- "to the troublemakers!" brian carroll ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:21:14 +0200 From: "Benjamin Geer" <benjamin.geer@gmail.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> re: nuclear diplomatic track On 14/04/06, brian carroll <neuron@electronetwork.org> wrote: > this devolution of the state over the last half-century (via the > military-industrial complex, say) may have driven the final nail into the > coffin of .US democracy as it was originally conceived, when the rise of the > corporate citizen took precedence over the human citizenry, in the > representation of public affairs of state. Who was included in "We the people" in 1789? US democracy as it was originally conceived was flagrantly undemocratic. Slavery was legal. The constitution didn't specify who had the right to vote, and states only allowed white, property-owning males to vote. Blacks didn't get the right to vote until the 15th Amendment in 1869, only to lose it in practice via literacy tests, poll taxes, and so on; these obstacles were only removed thanks to the civil rights movement in the 1960s. Women didn't get the right to vote until 1920, after a long struggle. > this is to say that, by the way that the constitution is framed it would be > considered a 'limited' view of what exists as a public realm, within a 18th > century contextualization of such an idea. The 18th-century idea was of course essentially about liberating white, property-owning males from the rule of monarchs. It wasn't about enfranchising the masses. Greater enfranchisement has only taken place because of mass movements that struggled *against* the 18th-century concept of democracy and dreamed of something quite different. > one such bug is the idea of a 'citizen.' where, today, a corporate citizen or > human citizen can equally co-exist in interpreting the constitution of state. Definitely. I thought the film _The Corporation_[1], which likens the corporate citizen to a psychopath, was on target in this respect. > is that 'the media' is not a formal branch of government yet it functions like > one I think you've found yet another bug in the constitution. > what if you were to call a constitutional convention and not only did nobody > come, but everyone laughed? This is what I had in mind when I asked whether you thought there was an organised public sphere capable of governing more responsibly than existing state institutions. I think it's clear that no such sphere exists in the US. Whether or not people came to a constitutional convention, and whether or not they laughed, I would expect it to reproduce existing forms of power, because those forms are the only ones Americans are familiar with. The American belief in "freedom", which as you rightly point out is essentially the freedom of the corporation to exploit human beings, is inherent in American nationalism. If you ask Americans to give "their own opinions" about democracy, this belief will surely come out "spontaneously" again and again. They will demand the right to be exploited. > the .US is going to get back on its feet and the .US military is in the > position to make this happen. I still don't understand why you think the US military, of all things, is in the least bit interested in democracy. Or maybe you mean the sort of "democracy" that they've set up in Iraq? Let's turn the question around: why hasn't there ever been a military coup in the US? Perhaps because governments have long set a high priority on keeping the military happy, by funding it generously and giving it plentiful opportunities to test its weapons in the field. I would be more inclined to expect a military coup if, say, defence funding were considerably reduced. And you didn't say why you think a military coup in the US would deviate from the typical historical pattern, which produces long-lasting authoritarian military regimes. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -- George Santayana "Santayana's aphorism must be reversed: too often it is those who can remember the past who are condemned to repeat it." -- Arthur Schlesinger Jr. Ben [1] http://www.thecorporation.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:06:27 -0500 From: brian carroll <neuron@electronetwork.org> Subject: Re: <nettime> re: nuclear diplomatic track hi Ben, thanks for the replies - I think we largely agree as far as I can tell, it is only a matter of perspective and what assumptions are shared, as to how this is being considered. I tried to give a clear indication that this is not a military 'coup' because that would be _illegal. it would be to overtake a legal government. the situation I tried to present was that this is not the case, to- day, and thus a military take-over would be a legal obligation in order to actually have a functioning democratic government. that is, the present situation is now a simulation of this idea, and not actually a constitutional self-representative government in the original sense of 'we the people' because these 'people' are now 'machines' and occupy every branch of government as representatives. what the point I was trying to make and failed to mention is that it is by such mechanisms as this, that if one is to reinterpret the constitution with regard to these present- day exploits- that issues like 'slavery' - that which differentiates constitutional from unconstitutional government- exists today in the form of corporations who are exploiting the human citizenry, as you are describing. my point is that this is less to do with the intention of corporations than with the environment they are operating within, in terms of a state, laws, and representation. so, one can click-in abuses of corporate power with slavery, Neoconservatism with insurrectionists, including some mass media, who exploit this and have become illegal government, outside of public checks and balances. yes, it is a lot to do with definitions, which is the point-- this 'we' has been described in what today exists as private language: mankind, god, etc. it is not in human terms, and thus bias and inequality exist in the founding documents by which to replicate all legitimate action. thus, if the constitution were considered a program made up of code, it may be considered an operating system of the state, both of individuals and the larger nation and even world- and it becomes both the limit and the paradigm within which events can happen and can be mediated. what I am arguing is that a small group of people have root access, having effectively hacked and cracked this code, including institutions, and now exist outside of the legal framework of this constitution and are calling the shots in a way that is clearly illegal as a democratic form of government. and this is where things start. this is to say that this 'coup' long ago happened and was only recently formalized in its most vagrant forms, as pure corrupted power, devoid of truth, which is a total lie which becomes a worldview. akin to Nazism, is this status-quo Neoconism, which becomes an everyday fascism-- if people just go along, it grows and grows and grows into even greater fascism by every new day. it gains legitimacy by being perceived as benign, simulating a pastoral ideal of some Jeffersonian Democracy while tyranny is what is actually governing events in the mass media mirage. i do disagree with your views of the military, only because it is of a higher level of complexity than this and yet that is not the point. the point is citizen government and reclaiming this ability, and not about bureaucracy or corruption or lies-- it is about a threat to the very state itself, its basic functioning, in which an emergency exists which requires the military as an institution to protect and defend the .US constitution, even from its own misguided government if that would turn out to be necessary: internal/external insurrection. yes, I am not naive enough to believe even this is so simple, yet it is to say that there may not have been a choice at some point in which decision-making was made that preceded the present, and then there may be today, where a choice _does exist, a better and a worse choice: between choosing the good and or choosing evil. and that there are those in the military, like everyone else, who is capable of choosing the good, and what this good is is described. it is to protect and defend the .US constitution against what is an evil agenda. and that the time to make that choice is right now-- not after the nuclear bombs start being lobbed around the world. if you think you can accomplish this, go for it. I'd put my trust in the ability of some goddamn tough-as-hell bastards who are Generals and the rank and file to start battering back against this evil, in the present context, and that day and time will eventually come to pass. maybe you don't think so, yet I guarantee you people will and are dying on yours and my behalf, to give us a fighting chance of victory. how can we get from where things are now to where they need to be, without dealing straight with the issues as they actually exist, and not in some utopian daydream detached from the very reality of the issues -- that we share basic assumptions about where we exist and how we exist and how to work together to get beyond this? if it is an endless worldwide war where citizens are turned into terrorists for questioning their democratic government, I'd say it is probably pretty helpful if you've got the .US military on your side in such an arrangement, and that it's time to start wising up a bit. and respecting warriors, as they're capable of contributing in ways that become very necessary in times like these-- it is possible that we are all on the same side of this situation, and that it is our in- ability to see eachother's points of view that limit needed changes. to me there's no question here, and to argue this is non-sensical. like previously stated, it would be _legal for the .US military to take command and control of the .US government and abolish existing offices of government on many counts, as being illegal and also unconstitutional, including the fatal compromise of the Courts and Congress and the White House by Neocon insurrectionists who are also known as being traitors in traditional parlance, against the state. those are the stakes: pretend this is a democracy and continue, to nuclear war, or take back the government by way of issues a state of emergency in which this situation is brought under public control (that is, military control in the legal sense, not itself the government). again, I never wrote this is a coup and I'd appreciate it if you do not misrepresent what I am saying, as it is unhelpful to keep doing so. Brian # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net