Goran Maric on Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:02:25 +0100 (CET) |
[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]
Re: <nettime> Pollock, Art History and Cold War [was: Wikileaks is old hat] |
First, it is not about throwing the names for the sake of throwing THE names, it was in context of someone TALKING ABOUT a child's ability to do better painting than "Pollock," so pretty much everything that was said was in that regard, and discussion developed somewhat further but stayed in within that context. curators historians critics gallerists historians philosopher aesthetes artist collectors donors publicists agents inheritors Coincidence or whatever, but while I was reading this post I was watching on TV an interview done with Jean-Luc Godard, about making of his La Chinoise (1967)... I am not sure if there is any other human practice that has been smashed, destroyed, stupefied, abused, ridiculed, and who knows what else than this what we call art, and only for the reason that something we call art and artist have been so artificially glorified as genius. And if we talk about genius, these are the greatest artist of all time: Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman creators, makers, thinkers... and do not have any connection with art whatsoever. I must say that I haven't seen that much dummies, ignorant people or else than in this practice... (and not because they are not good in theorizing, academia, or whatever else, for that is not a sign of an intelligence, not at all ) They are as such just because they grow up in this social structure, and one can like it or not, but that is the way. Wealth rules, and it will create justification for itself, and then it will be repeated over and over, without one bit of sense of responsibility... Everyone is jumping about climate, but no word about killing that is going on everyday basis, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over... While CIA is publicly writing that they work hard to make people ignorant about what is happening, we hear curators, historians, f....ng philosophers jumping intimidating artists pushing aside those who are fricking speaking through their expressive means straight forward about this bloody atrocious means of these wars. "..Oh no be careful, Oh how will you approach population, do not do it into my face..." like our bombs are not melting faces of children and the rest as I am writing about this, right now. DAMN IT!!! Jean-Luc Godard responded to a similar question asked, of course by a guy from the US, could his movies miss the opportunity to reach population, to do some influence. Godard responded that he is not interested in fast effects, he is rather interested in a longer education of population. He would rather do it longer than by some shorter, bad means... But not about longer terms in talking and talking nonsense trying not to offend someone, but talking the TRUTH, over and over and over and over and over and over. Again, soda and chips against home made soup... DAMN PHILOSOPHERS, DAMN HISTORIANS DAMN MACHINERY AND EVERYDAY PREACHERS "art to artists" pEOPLE were drawing hands on the walls of caves 15000 years ago, and they will be drawing them afterward ... Viva expression by any means AND without shackles of false intellectual indoctrination. Let DAMN ARTISTS decide what they want to do, and not to be told by curators, historians philosopher and god knows who else. But this shouldn't be a call to stupidity, and laziness and incompetence... But to responsibility and action... And if someone wants to draw, then draw, if someone wants to run and fight then run and fight, and if someone wants to do nothing, then do nothing, but do it right and DO NOT SELL white for black and black for white, and hide incompetence and laziness behind strong words and high thoughts, DAMN IT... Today artists have to go and inflict physical harm upon itself so that some moron critic would praise him. I witnessed it myself... It is as if a writer should write a book by its own blood, or As if a philosopher should stop writing but engage only in speaking. Why art must only in itself to be space, a lab for moronic and idiotic arguments excuses, excuses excuses excuses excuses, excuses excuses excuses excuses, excuses excuses excuses excuses, excuses excuses excuses excuses, excuses excuses excuses excuses, excuses excuses excuses excuses, excuses excuses excuses excuses, excuses excuses excuses excuses, excuses excuses excuses And for the end, I will call it art as long as we call Sartre philosopher... Regards, gORAN > Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:52:59 -0500 > To: nettime-l@kein.org > From: jya@pipeline.com > Subject: Re: <nettime> Pollock, Art History and Cold War [was: Wikileaks is old hat] > > Sartre, among others, claimed that lumping "the arts" into the > term art diminshes them all. Each art is unique, he said, and by > extension each art work is unique even when executed by among > the works of a single artist. He was uneasy with the term artist > due to its generalizing suppression of the individual into a > category. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org