Re: <nettime> ISEA 2011 fees

[Gívan Belá <xgz@societyofalgorithm.org>]

hi,
I basically agree with what andreas is saying but maybe in a slightly  
different way..
ISEA has - and that is the same with the other conferences and  
festivals mentioned here - changed over the years together with the  
stronger conformization and  institutionalization of the discipline  
itself (a convergence from multidisciplinary into more of a  
disciplinary definition), and that makes sense for its development  
within economical-industrial, research-academical and educational  
environments.. and then you will find artists and researchers, more  
affiliated to different organizations and companies there...
personally I am not so much interested in that for the moment, and  
would rather opt for going to smaller and more DIY organizations, with  
a fresher attitude and focus, and not burdoned by its predefined  
mission, curriculum or status. there are a couple of those gathering  
places but too few and what we need here is more diversity for sure...
maybe the discussion is also pointing to the growing needs of a new  
kind of festival/conference/gathering formula, more informal and more  
open, and without the outrageous access fees (whatever you think of  
that.. olala) and without competitive selection procedures providing  
some "other" qualities reflecting experimental, and unruly aesthetical  
activities...
so I would suggest that we leave the luxury cruise ship for what it  
is, and together build another boat to sail the wild media art seas,  
wherever that is taking us, non-affiliated artists and organizers,  
etc...? [in the long run also ISEA and the other events would benefit  
from it (it is a small world after all)]
givan bela


> dear friends,
>
> > What I would like to see coming out of  this discussion is not a
> > critique directed towards ISEA, but a comprehensive and constructive
> > critique (and action) surrounding the way these events are
> > conceived, whom they are targeting, how we can (can we?) come out
> > with alternatives.
> i think what would help would be to hear from some people what they
> think about ISEA and why they think it is important. the frustration
> that has been voiced here about the istanbul fees is a clear sign
> that there is a great desire to go and participate in ISEA2011, and i
> think it would be important to understand what people are expecting
> in order to know how to either change the system of ISEA, or invent
> alternatives.
<...>


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