Jeremie Zimmermann on Tue, 13 May 2014 01:39:25 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> tensions within the bay area elites |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Oh yeah... It's probably just a persons problem.. probably related to ego and such... What could be wrong with the not-do-evil Google? - - the fact that they bent to entertainment industry and were the first to accept privatized, automated policing/sanctioning scheme on their platforms, thus opening the door to industry requesting private censorship everywhere? - - their acceptance of paid-peering deals with major telcos operators, opening the door to these priority deals breaching Net neutrality? - - real name policy and repeated attacks of E.Schmidt against anonymity (so ironical when you know how secretive is the guy and the decision-making process at the top of G)? - - change of their licence to explictly merge all data into a single profile (which they said a few years before they would never do?) - - the fact that they became a US military contractant by acquiring killer robots with Boston Dynamics? - - their cooperation with the State department? - - their transformation of users into proprietary drones through the use of locked-down implants (glasses)? - - Their investments in strategic portfolios in the domains of biotech and transportation? - - Their active cooperation with PRISM and other programs of the NSA? No really, I don't see why Google bypassing the fundamental right to a fair trial, implementing automated private censorship, attacking anonymity, participating in massive breaches of privacy, leading the trend of anti-net neutrality deals, turning users into drones, and expanding to strategic fields while acquiring killer robots would be a problem to anyone..... j On Sunday 11 May 2014 01:57 PM, Geert Lovink wrote: > Dear nettimers, > > I know, there are tons of examples of this. I just want to know > more what you think of it, in particular if you happen to live > there, or come from the Bay Area. > > To me, it is somehow super clear that Facebook is evil. Not hard to > understand. But Google? Why are tensions rising so high lately > around them? Look at the tone of the Cory Doctorow blog post to > Boing Boing… Don't get me wrong. But have they really gone down > lately? In my humble view they are as evil as were a decade ago... > What happened? Have we changed? > > Yours, Geert > > -- > > Eric Schmidt, war crimes apologist and colossal hypocrite > > Cory Doctorow at 6:00 pm Wed, May 7, 2014 > > Just a reminder that Google CEO Eric Schmidt is a colossal > hypocrite and an apologist for war crimes: > > “Some people will cheer for the end of control that connectivity > and data-rich environments engender. They are the people who > believe that data wants to be free and that greater transparency in > all things will bring about a more just, safe and free world. For a > time, WikiLeaks' cofounder Julian Assange was the world's most > visible ambassador for this cause, but supporters of WikiLeaks and > the values it champions come in all stripes, including right-wing > libertarians, far-left liberals and apolitical technology > enthusiasts, While they don't always agree on tactics, to them, > data permanence is a failsafe for society. Despite some of the > known negative consequences of this movements (threats to > individual security, ruined reputations and diplomatic chaos), some > free-information activists believe the absence of a delete button > ultimately strengthens humanity's progress toward greater equality, > productivity and self-determination. We believe, however, that this > is a dangerous model, especially given that there is always going > to be someone with bad judgment who releases information that will > get people killed. This is why governments have systems and > valuable regulations in place that, while imperfect, should > continue to govern who gets to make the decision about what is > classified and what is not.” > > - Google CEO Eric Schmidt, on whistleblowers, from "The New Digital > Age," written with Jared Cohen, another Googler. > > This is the man who said, "If you have something that you don't > want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first > place" (but flipped out when Cnet performed the most perfunctory of > doxxings on him), but whose position, when it comes to leaks > detailing everything from the indiscriminate killing of civilians > to criminal mass-surveillance of whole nations (and massive > cyberattacks on his own company) is that grownups know what they're > doing and it's not up to the "far left," and "right wing > libertarians" to publish the truth and hold powerful criminals to > account. > > In short: if Google outs you through a "Real Names" policy on G+, > maybe you just shouldn't be gay, or maybe you shouldn't be hiding > that fact from your violent and intolerant neighbors. But if a > whistleblower or a reporter outs an elected official for gross > corruption and war crimes, she's an irresponsible child who's taken > the law into her own hands and should know better. > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # > collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # > more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # > archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org > - -- - --- - --- Jérémie Zimmermann --- +33 (0)615 940 675 --- twitter: @jerezim --- - --- Sharing bits of Internets and beyond --- http://datalove.net ------ - --- La Quadrature du Net (co-founder) --- http://laquadrature.net ----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTcPW8AAoJEG7TYbU4o8MHzTIP/iaUoXcCFjhKdeC3bn92za1i FCTaJQIqwXLNCsi/8KvUpGvNP7O9/ShSPrvq4EhbGQZA4MCxvL867lf5+E6AhfWc XAEuz2sPugL3okDBiZtScj250cdAZ9evDDPkjsg2APL3tjQOKJn1hoJ8SK8kr/cB J/70MReD/ZTYM+p1Xa+Yc9uJAq/b4h19p3qIvuc3c1wDgaLLLWLT4e+iMc06IBYW ErDaAkeCRzUZfm5Hl2N74tI6wMjRFo/9JUoE6j0WNelfusG0i8oyos9dbU1GDXMR yOemgk4S6ipCfhV2XfF6tO5+Un4kKI0Jpds8CNKVccJKTtdrAPho4MVGe51xiQYV AL+zpFh0sjhvYl3dv4t+s1FBfGEZOkiGsrzFeZfiOkNYR0eUtSF/Op0v0uUJCnV/ qS/REcYwEfYmobb79oYN2pVf/I4Q3vfSz1TfWcPvGQG8MCOTWKPDqhfX3v5mhbRa jdLWlXTT5/bmC8BHu/nm88IcsBSJKfReZqiqJBY70QMhen7vJferYvcH3PhGof7c b26q58cxPxVdAEeIBXmMb4LRCC6EVSJDBhN5AFqHMLrd9eZQIhjMDdCxQIg42qJg 9n4N6WAEYmOYj+mZxj0QNE2qQsl6Q9cD3Geih1JHK4ZVoxeBKroH8R1Nqk1WlO5m KAE97fepwKSozx4eRgxE =ABe7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org