Magnus Boman on Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:01:47 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> a free letter to cultural institutions |
Great examples from Florian Cramer. Having run an indie record company and music publishing house for 32 years, I could add that punk attitude is something that extends far beyond any musical genre (punk included) and that incorporates a disdain from any representative of jurisprudence. The latter represent a world of order, when in fact the bands want chaos. A great example is the Pirate Bay guys' decidedly punk attitude towards lawyers in the AFK movie. I have through the years tried everything from putting c's in circles and paid the fees for it, to paying nothing and putting "unauthorized -> hospitalized" on an LP label. I have as an artist put out music on indie labels up to the world's biggest label (Warner). IThe result is always the same. I (label and artist) was paid nearly nothing for ANY use of my work. My music has been used for jingles, opera, theatre plays, signature tunes to what I am told is a popular radio show in Estonia. All without permission from me, regardless of "protection" of my "art". If you want to be radical, I found, take what money you have to spare and spend it on releasing records that you give away for free. This really irritates a lot of people (a good thing). My own favourite experience here was when I curated Roboculture, the cultural part of the 2nd (as I recall) robotic soccer world cup in 1999. Sony was a sponsor, so they also paid for the cultural event, which included modern dance, photography, and lots more, including a commissioned theme song that could definitely be used for torture. I had lots of records made and gave them away to left and right - all paid for by Sony. My experience is typical, just a little bit longer than that of most people I guess, and so we pass on the wisdom to the young of what Florian Cramer is talking about: even the nice, cool, well-meaning people will not deliver. Just get in control of your stuff any way you can, and make money any way you can. Never mind the rules, never mind the law. We have WFMU, Ubuweb, and today even a youtube full of bootleg recordings. We have lots of bands putting out vinyl and tapes, and doing OK. Things are looking good for creative people from where I stand, viz. in the trenches. Peace, M. On 14 June 2014 14:20, Florian Cramer <fcramer@pleintekst.nl> wrote: > > > > I'd be very interested to hear why a punk band wouldn't want to release > > music under a free license. > > > > For example, because it doesn't want - for political reasons - its music to > end up on Spotify, Google or similar corporate services, against which free > licenses provide no means of intervention. Or because it wants to retain a > means of preventing that work is being politically misappropriated. For > example, if the punk band were the Dead Kennedys, and it would have > released "California Uber Alles" under a truly free license, it would have > no means to intervene if a Neonazi band performed the same song with no > irony intended. > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org