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Re: <nettime> Paul Mason: Trump is a symptom of the new globaldisorder, not the cause |
Dear Sascha,Please be aware of the fact that 40% might be the road to victory in the UK, on account of the voting system.
Please be aware of the fact that Trump succeeded in gaining the US presidency although he lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes, on account of the voting system.
That said, you are totally right that aiming for (just) 40% is ridiculous. We should aim for no less than 51%!
But it is a losing proposition to infer that we should refrain from reaching back to the class principle. In fact, that's the only way to achieve success.
Op 24-06-18 om 22:20 schreef Sascha D. Freudenheim:
Loving the framing here--or is that ironic?--of 40% of the vote as a success.Woot! So close to a governing majority! (Except for not even being close.)Yes, moving left and becoming a class party is a sure path to ...... defeat actually. Think the record of that is really very clear. Here in the U.S., and also in the U.K., and elsewhere.That 1891 document is charmant und lieblich, and when I was a 19 year old studying my political history and philosophy, it would have been endearing. (Of course there was no web back then so I would have been reading it in a book.)As a middle-aged owner of a small business? The parts of it that are based on values still resonate (e.g., "4. Abolition of all laws that place women at a disadvantage compared with men in matters of public or private law."). The parts of it that are about class/identity politics fall flat or are, worse, downright unappealing. (You really think you can legally restrict my right to work beyond eight hours a day? Hahahah.)Marx needs a stake through the heart. It's long past time. This is not the path to victory, it's the path to a permanent 40% minority.Sascha On 6/24/18 4:04 PM, Richard Barbrook wrote:Hiya,It would be really great to hear more detail about the Corbynites' analysis of the international situation and how they translate that into a domestic policy program(Barbrook, where are you?).We were visiting Berlin to tell the SPD about Labour's digital campaigning during the 2017 election campaign. I emphasised that our success was due to politics not technology. If the SPD also wants to win 40% of the vote, it should move left and become a class party! https://www.marxists.org/history/international/social-democracy/1891/erfurt-program.htmRichardp.s. John McDonnell - Labour's finance spokesperson and Jeremy's Number 2 - is on theexecutive of DiEM25. ======================= Dr. Richard Barbrook Dept of Politics and IR, University of Westminster 32-38 Wells Street LONDON W1T 3UW England +44 (0)7879 441873 Skype: richard.barbrook Facebook: Richard Barbrook Twitter: @richardbarbrook https://www.digital-liberties.coop http://www.cybersalon.org http://www.classwargames.net http://www.politicsandmediafreedom.net http://www.imaginaryfutures.net http://www.imaginaryfutures.net/other-works 'Clause 5: That as the laws ought to be equal, so they must be good, and not evidently destructive to the safety and well-being of the people.' The Levellers, The 1647 Agreement of the People for a Firm and Present Peace Upon Grounds of Common Right. On Thu 14/06/18 11:16 PM , "Frederic Neyrat" fneyrat@gmail.com sent:Dear Brian, As always your emails are illuminating. I've one question: to you, what are the parties, social formations, social forces that could enable " dispersed transformation of the energy and agricultural systems accompanied but pervasive reworking of the patterns of inhabitation and entirely new forms of ecological stewardship, based on the logic of ecosystem services (which needs to be amplified by a new concept of human services to ecosystems)"? And maybe a secondary concern about the term "service" that you use: with a configuration of other managerial terms, it has replaced -erased - first "source," then "ressource," I mean it's a term completely integrated in the system that produced the environmental disasters - I know I go quickly from service to disaster, but, to make a long story short, it seems to me that the word service is a denial of any eco-systemic reality (I try to explain that in La Part inconstructible de la Terre, to be published in English as The Unconstructable Earth at Fordham UP). Best, Frederic On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Brian Holmes wrote: Mason really captures the intensity of the breakdown, not only of neoliberalism, but of the post-WWII interstate system. He also manages to keep Asia in the picture, which is essential, because it is the emergence of the China-centric economy that destabilized the former Trilateral hierarchy of the US, Western Europe and Japan. However I have always found Mason's prescriptions incoherent, and in this case he goes off into some fantasy about Keynes that is totally invisible on the actual political landscape. Except maybe in the UK itself? If that's true, as David suggests, it would explain what I don't get about the article. It would be really great to hear more detail about the Corbynites' analysis of the international situation and how they translate that into a domestic policy program (Barbrook, where are you?). In the US there is no broad discussion about the need for what Alex calls a "new pact," and the reason for this is that, quite unlike the situation in the 1930s, the economy is currently booming and there is (as yet) no credible threat of authoritarian control over the prosperous sectors. The professional-managerial types of the digital economy, yesterday's "new class," have firmly hitched their fortunes to the rising oligarchs, and there's far more interest in the sales of Elon Musk's flamethrower than in any transformation of the social order. We cannot currently produce anything on the order of Keynes, much less Marx, because the macro-level breakdown of the postwar system has really been caused at the micro level by the ethical-political decay of the science-based professions that Felix has analyzed. The emergence of the professionals as a force in their own right, based on education and therefore distinct from the capital-accumulating bourgeoisie, lent the consistency of a quest for objective truth to all the properly political discussions about how to organize a complex society. Neoliberalism dissolved that ethical component of technocratic society by encouraging professionals to abandon the state and any notion of public service, in favor of entrepreneurship with its self-interested disruption of legitimate rules and norms (something that Paolo Virno analyzed perfectly over 20 years ago in his text on Opportunism, Cynicism and Fear, which in English is tepidly called The Ambivalence of Disenchantment). Alex writes: to stave off nationalism, racism, authoritarianism we need a new social pact (similar to fordism in its macro elements) that distributes the productivity of machine learning to all - a pact between the forces representing the female and multiethnic precariat and those of digital oligopoly Alex, I totally agree about the new pact but I think the reason it's not happening lies precisely in the description of its potential partners. The precariat as theorized in the 1990s and 2000s totally ignored the impoverished industrial workers outside major metropolitan areas and the agricultural sector, paying only lip service to migrant farm workers. It had nothing to say to the former artisanal and commercial middle classes whose "included" status was shattered by the opportunistic disruption of business models and the retreat of the state from anything to do with social reproduction. Unlike Fordism, it offered no productive pathway toward membership in any kind of social pact, but only dangled the promise of a redistribution of financial wealth whose spigot has now dried up. It is true that machine learning will unleash a new flood of industrial productivity comparable to that released by the cynical relocation of Fordist industry to Asia during the neoliberal period. But without any corresponding form of productive inclusion, that flood when it comes will only drown people in more meaningless and abusive products, exactly as the flood of cheap Asian "goods" - which should be called "bads" - has destroyed the social fabric in the US and led to things like the opioid crisis and the election of Trump. Let me be clear that this was no fault of the Asians, but instead, it was down to the owners of capital who sought a fast buck, and to the politicians who enabled them. The evil twin of precariat theory in the US was nothing other than Clintonian entrepreneurialism, which appealed to the vote of women and minority sectors in order to increase the agency of bankers and the emerging digital oligarchs. Anywhere you go in the world, the contrast between the glittering metropolis and the toxic countryside is now obvious. It is underwritten everywhere by equally stark divides within the metropolitan order, which remain invisible to people who move only between their jobs, their entertainment palaces and whatever they call home (from cheap flat to luxury penthouse). The thing that has now started and happening and is about to intensify radically is not just labor instability and household debt. Instead the cheap flats, decayed middle class houses and rural shacks are going to start getting massively destroyed by climate-change phenomena, as they already have been in places like Puerto Rico or during the flooding in India. The real opportunity for collective investment and a new form of productive citizenship lies in eco-technics, by which I do not mean AI or centralized geo-engineering but instead, dispersed transformation of the energy and agricultural systems accompanied but pervasive reworking of the patterns of inhabitation and entirely new forms of ecological stewardship, based on the logic of ecosystem services (which needs to be amplified by a new concept of human services to ecosystems). Keynes has no blueprint for this situation. Neither do any of the anarcho-libertarian theorists of more recent years, including the Accelerationists with their absurd rallying cry of luxury communism. I actually think there's a theoretical/practical emergency unfolding before our eyes, except it's still dinner hour below decks on the Titanic, and most people are just anxiously wondering how low they can go on the tip to the waiter. At least Paul Mason went up for a look-see at the ocean. Although we all surely disagree from the get-go, let's produce some converging ideas on the scale of the current planetary weather. 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