Shd have been “you’ll” On Mar 17, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Keith Sanborn <mrzero@panix.com> wrote:
If you liked the invasion of Ukraine, you love the Russian invasion when it comes to Beograd. On Mar 17, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Miro Visic <miroware@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 16 Mar 2022, at 4:45, Stefan Heidenreich wrote:
> add this: Former senior advisor the Secretary of Defense Col. Doug Macgregor on the situation in Ukraine and Washington:
It seems strange to see this on nettime.
Macgregor is a Putin apologist who's called Zelensky a "puppet," accused him of using the Ukrainian people as "human shields," described the wanton destruction as "surprisingly little damage," and argued that the Russian military should have been *more* violent in the opening days of the war. He's a fixture on Fox News because he makes hosts like Tucker Carlson sound moderate.
The Secretary of Defense that Macgregor advised (for a few months) was Chris Miller, who Trump installed just days after losing the election as part of a larger purge of mil/intel leadership. There's good reason to think that Macgregor actively involved in Trump’s attempted coup.
From Wikipedia on Macgregor’s failed nomination (by Trump) to be ambassador to Germany:
> He has asserted that Muslim immigrants (referred to as "Muslim invaders") come to Europe "with the goal of eventually turning Europe into an Islamic state". Macgregor has argued that the German concept of Vergangenheitsbewältigung, used to cope with Germany's Nazi past and its atrocities during World War II, is a "sick mentality." Macgregor has also stated that martial law should be instituted on the U.S.-Mexico border and argued for the extrajudicial execution of those who cross the border at unofficial ports of entry. Macgregor has also made statements in support of Israel having defensible borders, the annexation of the Golan Heights, and the decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. In a column in The Washington Post he was described as "a racist crackpot who is pro-Russia, anti-Merkel, anti-Muslim and anti-Mexican."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor?wprov=sfti1
Admittedly, Wikipedia is a problematic source — in this case because it understates Macgregor's extremism. His view that Ukraine should serve as a "neutral" buffer between NATO/EU and RU is consistent with his advocacy for summary executions of undocumented migrants at the US/Mex border: he doesn't like change, and he's happy to exchange others' lives en masse to prevent it.
Your suggestion that the INC should add some random rightist-noise YT video to their list of practical Ukraine resources seems a bit...tone-deaf?
Ted
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Hi Ted, I'm totally with you on one point: Macgregor is very doubtful
and uttered a lot of terrible political nonsense. He comes from
military, after all. I also detest his political views.
But: what if his assessment of the military situation on the ground and
of the political situation in Washington DC is correct?
Could it be, that, following a progressive-liberal flag, we've been led
by the military-industrial complex and the donor class into a hellhole?
I think it definitely merits to give a second thought to his possibility.
The issue at stake is:
- how can we terminate this war as quickly as possible?
- how can we save Europa from being turned into the battlefield between
NATO and Russia/China?
(Maybe not by following the calls of the military-complex fake liberalism)
for that matter: if there is only a glimpse of truth in what Macgregor
says, one should think very careful about whom and what to support.
s
Am 16.03.2022 um 12:05 schrieb Ted Byfield:
> On 16 Mar 2022, at 4:45, Stefan Heidenreich wrote:
>
>> add this: Former senior advisor the Secretary of Defense Col. Doug Macgregor on the situation in Ukraine and Washington:
>
> It seems strange to see this on nettime.
>
> Macgregor is a Putin apologist who's called Zelensky a "puppet," accused him of using the Ukrainian people as "human shields," described the wanton destruction as "surprisingly little damage," and argued that the Russian military should have been *more* violent in the opening days of the war. He's a fixture on Fox News because he makes hosts like Tucker Carlson sound moderate.
>
> The Secretary of Defense that Macgregor advised (for a few months) was Chris Miller, who Trump installed just days after losing the election as part of a larger purge of mil/intel leadership. There's good reason to think that Macgregor actively involved in Trump’s attempted coup.
>
> From Wikipedia on Macgregor’s failed nomination (by Trump) to be ambassador to Germany:
>
>> He has asserted that Muslim immigrants (referred to as "Muslim invaders") come to Europe "with the goal of eventually turning Europe into an Islamic state". Macgregor has argued that the German concept of Vergangenheitsbewältigung, used to cope with Germany's Nazi past and its atrocities during World War II, is a "sick mentality." Macgregor has also stated that martial law should be instituted on the U.S.-Mexico border and argued for the extrajudicial execution of those who cross the border at unofficial ports of entry. Macgregor has also made statements in support of Israel having defensible borders, the annexation of the Golan Heights, and the decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. In a column in The Washington Post he was described as "a racist crackpot who is pro-Russia, anti-Merkel, anti-Muslim and anti-Mexican."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor?wprov=sfti1
>
> Admittedly, Wikipedia is a problematic source — in this case because it understates Macgregor's extremism. His view that Ukraine should serve as a "neutral" buffer between NATO/EU and RU is consistent with his advocacy for summary executions of undocumented migrants at the US/Mex border: he doesn't like change, and he's happy to exchange others' lives en masse to prevent it.
>
> Your suggestion that the INC should add some random rightist-noise YT video to their list of practical Ukraine resources seems a bit...tone-deaf?
>
> Ted
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Emergency funding to Ukrainian journalists (administered by independent UA news outlet Zaborna Media)
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Compiled for/by INC Ukraine page and more tech meets tactical media initiatives
https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/ <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/>
Donation campaign for Ukranian media
https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going>
Send text messages from your phones directly to randomly selected Russians
https://1920.in/ <https://1920.in/>
Via INURA (thanks to Patrice):
https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war>
Contacts for Ukrainians (via Janos Sugar)
https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/ <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/>
Tools for communicating offline and in difficult circumstance (via Maja van der Velden)
https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances>
Liberal-conservative America discussing China?s role: Kaiser Kuo in conversation with Evan Feigenbaum (via Ned Rossiter) https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/ <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/>
Online Russian Anti-War Petitions collection: ?In the name of the
Russian people, but against our will?: Russian voices against Russia?s
war in Ukraine:
https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8 <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8>
Links from Micheal Dieter:
Recording of 'Ukrainian Dispatch - Solidarity as Cultural Praxis
during Wartime' event at bbk berlin, March 14th 2022 - Panelists /
Speakers: Vasyl Cherepanyn (director of the Visual Culture Research
Center (VCRC, Kyiv), Nikita Kadan (artist), Maria Isserlis (curator),
Marina Naprushkina (artist, founder of Neue Nachbarschaft/ Moabit),
Clemens von Wedemeyer (artist Berlin).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik>
Institute of Strategic Dialogue (ISD) report, Support from the
Conspiracy Corner: German-Language Disinformation about the Russian
Invasion of Ukraine on Telegram:
https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/ <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/>
Report on Websites Blocked in Russia Since Ukraine Invasion:
https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/ <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/>
Global VPN use, live tracker - Russia: VPN demand increase: 2,088%
(peak), Dates: February 24-March 13; Ukraine: VPN demand increase:
609% (peak); Dates: February 15-March 9 -
https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/ <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/>
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add this: Former senior advisor the Secretary of Defense Col. Doug
Macgregor on the situation in Ukraine and Washington:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFngc_8RiVc
Am 16.03.2022 um 09:08 schrieb Geert Lovink:
> Compiled for/by INC Ukraine page and more tech meets tactical media
> initiatives
> https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/
> <https://networkcultures.org/blog/category/ukraine/>
>
> Donation campaign for Ukranian media
> https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going
> <https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-ukraines-media-going>
>
> Send text messages from your phones directly to randomly selected Russians
> https://1920.in/ <https://1920.in/>
>
> Via INURA (thanks to Patrice):
> https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war
> <https://urbanpolitical.podigee.io/49-ukrainian_cities_at_war>
>
> Contacts for Ukrainians (via Janos Sugar)
> https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/
> <https://www.contactsforukrainians.art/>
>
> Tools for communicating offline and in difficult circumstance (via Maja
> van der Velden)
> https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances
> <https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances>
>
> Liberal-conservative America discussing China?s role: Kaiser Kuo in
> conversation with Evan Feigenbaum (via Ned Rossiter)
> https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/
> <https://supchina.com/2022/03/09/china-tries-to-square-a-circle-in-ukraine/>
>
> Online Russian Anti-War Petitions collection: ?In the name of the
> Russian people, but against our will?: Russian voices against Russia?s
> war in Ukraine:
> https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8
> <https://medium.com/@dina.gusejnova/in-the-name-of-the-russian-people-but-against-our-will-russian-voices-against-russias-war-in-90ee7e3ca3f8>
>
> Links from Micheal Dieter:
>
> Recording of 'Ukrainian Dispatch - Solidarity as Cultural Praxis
> during Wartime' event at bbk berlin, March 14th 2022 - Panelists /
> Speakers: Vasyl Cherepanyn (director of the Visual Culture Research
> Center (VCRC, Kyiv), Nikita Kadan (artist), Maria Isserlis (curator),
> Marina Naprushkina (artist, founder of Neue Nachbarschaft/ Moabit),
> Clemens von Wedemeyer (artist Berlin).
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMYU-COIik>
>
> Institute of Strategic Dialogue (ISD) report, Support from the
> Conspiracy Corner: German-Language Disinformation about the Russian
> Invasion of Ukraine on Telegram:
> https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/
> <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/support-from-the-conspiracy-corner-german-language-disinformation-about-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-on-telegram/>
>
> Report on Websites Blocked in Russia Since Ukraine Invasion:
> https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/
> <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/websites-blocked-in-russia/>
>
> Global VPN use, live tracker - Russia: VPN demand increase: 2,088%
> (peak), Dates: February 24-March 13; Ukraine: VPN demand increase:
> 609% (peak); Dates: February 15-March 9 -
> https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/
> <https://www.top10vpn.com/research/vpn-demand-statistics/>
>
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