Re: <nettime> Moving Nettime to the Fediverse

[Andreas Broeckmann <ab@mikro.in-berlin.de>]

Folks,

Maybe, more productively, and as Allan has suggested, people can write 
small reports here about how (exactly) they are using the new Mastodon 
instance, and what their experiences are. I'd find that useful, and 
maybe it's a good time to learn and play together.

Regards,
-a


PS: Geoff, excuse my bluntness, but I think that the tone of your 
posting is completely inappropriate. Even for people who don't know the 
moderators personally, it must be clear that their commitment to the 
list and the project of Nettime is and has been substantial, and to put 
that in question in the form that you do here is in itself, for me, a 
mark of self-disqualification.

Just two things: I suggest that you strike through the word "we" in your 
posting and reconsider again who this acting subject might actually be; 
there is certainly no "we" here that can "identify", "create", or 
"decide". The composition of this 'connective' is much more feeble than 
you seem to think. And you are suggesting to send away the people who 
have been holding its foundations together, even though you admit to not 
knowing what that involves, technically, mentally, socially, 
communication-wise. (Maybe apply for an internship?)

Secondly, it may look like it for you, but Nettime is not and probably 
never will be an institution. It was much closer to that status 20 years 
ago. Its rules of operation are therefore different.

-a


Am 15.12.22 um 10:53 schrieb Geoffrey Goodell:
> Dear Allan and all,
>
> The wishful thinking on the part of the list maintainers was:
>
> (a) that they would be forgiven for growing weary of running the service; AND
>
> (b) that they would also continue to enjoy the self-gratification from
> volunteering to provide infrastructure support to the community.
>
> The inconvenient reality is that they cannot have both (a) and (b).
>
> So, I suggest that we identify new list maintainers; after all, we all knew
> that time for a successor would eventually come.  If this is just a matter of
> configuring and running mailman3 on one of my mail servers, then I am happy to
> do it myself, although I suspect that there are others here who are more
> appropriate for the task.
>
> Suggest that we create a committee of volunteers to receive the knowledge of
> how to run the list (e.g.: the list of email addresses and their settings, the
> mailman configuration files, the historical archive, and so on) and decide who
> should do what.  Whether or not this makes some people uncomfortable, Nettime
> has become a de facto institution and requires an institutional approach.
>
> Best wishes --
>
> Geoff


On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 10:07:16AM +0100, Allan Siegel wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I think Mastodon has certain things going for it but the experience 
is very
> different from the Nettime LIST...
>
> The group who orchestrated the change in environments should have 
prepared
> users for the change and described a framework on how this change could
> work. To suddenly basically dissolve one community and imagine it 
will just
> reappear someplace else involves some wishful thinking.
>
> best
>
> allan
>
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