Re: <nettime> closing nettime-l, uh?

On 11 May 2023 21:10:27 CEST, Geoffrey Goodell <goodell@oxonia.net> wrote:
Hi Felix and all,

No.  Let's not close the list.

I believe that Jan's offer of help is valuable.

Why is it not sufficient?  Is it because it does not come with a server?

Well, I have a server that can be put to good use here.  I'll be able to sort
out the details by tomorrow at the latest, but there is no reason why we cannot
install Mailman and some MX records.  Really, this is not a big deal.

Are there other kinds of volunteers needed?  Really, let's be explicit.  We
have the capacity.

I look forward to coordinating with Jan, and perhaps others, to make this
transition a success.  I do not seek to usurp anyone's authority here: I am
happy to do this to be helpful but will gladly support others to make this
happen instead, if others are more appropriate for the job.

But what I can say is that nettime-l will continue, barring some explicit
attempt to block it.

Please let me know:

(a) If you want to help me, or

(b) If you think you can lead/run/support this better than I can (I won't argue
with you if so.  My goal is for nettime to continue.)

Best wishes and thanks again --

Geoff

On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 02:40:54PM +0200, Felix Stalder wrote:
Hi everyone,

if I look over the list traffic of the last 10 days, I don't see much energy
to continue the list. The only concrete offer to contribute some effort came
from Jan Wildeboer. I rally appreciate it, but technical care is only one of
the aspects that is necessary to make it worthwhile to continue the list.

Thus, after many 'nottime' April Fools Day jokes, let's close the list for
real. At this point, I cannot see whom to hand over the list and there is
tldr.nettime.org which, of course, is vastly different from the list.

Almost 8 years ago. Ted and I -- on invitation for a tactical media
anthology that hasn't made it to print (yet) -- wrote an essay of the
history of nettime-l.

https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-1511/msg00001.html

It's not without flaws, undoubtedly doesn't do justice to the many people
without whom nettime-l would not have come into existence in the first place
nor lasted for as long as it has.

I'm sure someone will write a better history at some point, and if you want
to put something for them on the record -- that is into the archive at
nettime.org (and a few other places that also archive the list) -- the time
is now.

For me, personally, nettime has been of tremendous value, intellectually but
also a source of deep and enduring friendships. My life has been better
because of nettime and I'm grateful to every contributor and lurker on the
list.

Felix






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