Keith Sanborn via nettime-l on Thu, 12 Oct 2023 14:06:08 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> nettime-l Digest, Vol 4, Issue 18


The notion that Palestinians remain in “camps” to promote anti-imperialist rhetoric is a gross misrepresentation. 

> On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:16 AM, Gebhard Sengmüller via nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org> wrote:
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> I agree. The role of Palestinians as pawns in the hands of Arab nations seems to be largely excluded from the left’s „imperialism“ discourse on the topic. Doesn’t make a difference for suffering civilians now of course, but just try imagine other countries in similar predicaments acting like this.
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>>  1. Re: silence on Palestine? (Rahul Goswami)
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:31:29 +0530
>> From: Rahul Goswami <makanaka@pobox.com>
>> To: nettime-l@lists.nettime.org
>> Subject: Re: <nettime> silence on Palestine?
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>> I present a few points here to bring balance to the subject:
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>> 1. On 29 November 1947, the UN General Assembly adopted Resolution 181, 
>> known as the Partition Plan. Acceptance of the Partition Plan would have 
>> meant the establishment of two states, but the surrounding Arab 
>> countries and the local Arab population vehemently rejected the proposal.
>> 
>> 2. After the May 1948 war, Israel (other Western countries too) 
>> immediately absorbed Jewish refugees. Palestinian refugees were placed 
>> in camps and kept there generation after generation as a matter of Arab 
>> policy. Israel withdrew entirely from Gaza in 2005, but there are still 
>> eight UN-run refugee camps there. Why should there be? Gaza is 
>> completely under Palestinian control. But dismantling the camps would 
>> mean removing symbols of Palestinian ?resistance?.
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>> 3. During the 1990-91 Gulf War, Kuwait expelled over 300,000 
>> Palestinians working in the country when Yasser Arafat supported Saddam 
>> Hussein. The Palestinians were seen as a likely fifth column. There was 
>> scant objection from other Arab countries, or pro-Palestine voices in 
>> the West, about the expulsion.
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>> Rahul Goswami
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