Re: <nettime> silence on Palestine?

[Keith Sanborn via nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org>]

> On Oct 14, 2023, at 1:33 AM, Rahul Goswami via nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org> wrote:
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> Yes, I have picked out aspects of the post-1948 period. Historical events and eras anterior to the formation of the state of Israel are a subject too voluminous for a discussion in this forum.
> The immediate and recent facts remain:
> 1. What happened on 7 October 2023 was a terrorist attack. The death toll from that attack is now at least 1,300 which is an enormous number. The number of injured is much higher. This was an organised and deliberate terrorist attack.
What is the difference between an attack and a terrorist attack? Wholesale vs retail?


> 2. The modes of killing and savage humiliation by Hamas terrorists against Israeli citizens (and other citizens) have gone far beyond what the world has come to associate with terrorism in recent decades. These cannot and must never be sanitised.
No one has ever tried to sanitize this. 


> 3. In a number of cities in Europe, North America and Australia, later on 7 October and during the days following, 'celebrations' for the attack were on public display by supporters in those cities of Hamas, the Palestinian Authority and the Palestinian "resistance". This points to the globalisation of the support for terrorism of this nature. That this has happened is a concern serious enough for those in the West, but that it has yet to be recognised academically signals a blind spot that is already deadly.

I wd like to see some references substantiating this. It echoes the fake Palestinian celebrations of 9/11 which were alleged to have taken place in NJ but didn’t. 


> 4. Media and commentary about the Israeli armed response to the 7 October terror attack has been generally one-sided. The Israeli Defence Force has been criticised. However the IDF's methods have not changed. As before, it warns civilians before an attack. What has escaped even passing comment by the Western media is the wretched development track record of the Palestinian Authority and Hamas (in Gaza), which collect huge sums every year (a) by taxing Egyptian business in and with Gaza, (b) taxing Gazans who commute to work daily to and from Israel, (c) from Qatar which has for the last several years paid upwards of USD 200 million a year. To what uses has this money been put?
> 5. The Palestinian Authority and its supporters demand the right to the existence of a Palestinian state. However Mahmoud Abbas has not only repeatedly vowed never to recognise Israel as a Jewish state, but in March 2014 lobbied the Arab League to issue a statement expressing its "absolute and decisive rejection to recognising Israel as a Jewish state." This symbolises the growing Islamism within Palestinian society, and its apparent acceptance by particularly Western supporters of the PA, which is as serious a matter as point 3 above.
> Rahul Goswami

I dont know media you are referring to. The media in the us is drastically pro-Isaraeli as has been the government response. At best, sources like the BBC for example make at last some attempt to tell both sides of the story, not excusing anyone. France24 has taken a similar course while covering pro-Palestinian demonstrations—which is not to say pro-Hamas demonstrations. 

These charges sound like APAC talking points. 
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