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[i'm sure that the 'the NSA IS SPYING ON YOUR WINDOWS BOX' meme is very satisfying, but it's not very illuminating. here are four good posts discussing the recent news item about it. ah: 'API' means 'application programming inter- face'--the resources and rules that an operating system makes available to programs that run under that system. the last post (4, originally from the BUGTRAQ mailing list) *is* illuminating, because it talks about ways in which the NSA's alleged subversion of microsoft's (heh) security implementation can itself be subverted. but the bottom line, i think, is that it's impossible to know 'for sure' whether the extra key(s) is/are accessible to any- one but microsoft (assuming that microsoft is 'one'). it may be accessible only to microsoft--until it's not. cheers, t] --- Forwarded (1) From: "Lucky Green" <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> To: "cypherpunks@Algebra. COM" <cypherpunks@Algebra.COM> Cc: "Cryptography@C2. Net" <cryptography@c2.net>, <bugtraq@securityfocus.com> Old-Subject: NSA key in MSFT Crypto API Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:21:01 -0700 Subject: NSA key in MSFT Crypto API Reply-To: "Lucky Green" <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> Andrew Fernandes tonight published the results of his reverse engineering of Microsoft's Crypto API (CAPI). [This builds on work done by Nicko van Someren from nCipher]. Background: MSFT CAPI comes pre-installed with two keys used to check the validity of a Cryptographic Service Provider (CSP). The holder of either key can install operating system security services without user authorization. The first key is used by MSFT to sign their own security services modules. The identity of the second key holder until now been unknown. That is to say until MSFT forgot to strip the binary of NT4 SP5 off debugging symbols. Perhaps not surprisingly, the debugging symbol for the second key is... _NSAKEY, For more information and a program to remove the NSA's key from your copy of Windows 95, 98, NT, 2000, see http://www.cryptonym.com/hottopics/msft-nsa.html Note that Windows 2000 includes not just two keys, but three keys that can sign modules that will control security services on your copy of Windows. Word has it that the third key belongs to the FBI. So far, there has been no independent confirmation of this rumor. --Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> --- Backwarded (1) --- Forwarded (2) From: "Tim Dierks" <tim@dierks.org> To: "Cryptography@C2. Net" <cryptography@c2.net>, <bugtraq@securityfocus.com> Subject: RE: NSA key in MSFT Crypto API Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:15:08 -0700 Sender: owner-cryptography@c2.net It's not clear to me why being able to sign CSP modules is a risky thing anyway; all it means is that Windows will load and execute your crypto. The mechanism is designed to keep overseas end users from being able to build and install strong crypto libraries. If the NSA has a key, all they can do is vouch for their libraries as export-qualified and thus enable their use. It's not a secret backdoor or anything, and modules need to be on the machine before their signatures are checked. If I can get you to execute code on our Windows machine, I can penetrate your security, period. These authorizing signatures have nothing to do with it. Even if the key belongs to the NSA, I suspect that the NSA just wanted to be able to load classified Crypto Service Providers into Windows and didn't want to have to send said classified software to Microsoft for approval, so they got the key installed so they could approve software in house. - Tim Tim Dierks VP of Engineering, Certicom tdierks@certicom.com 510.780.5409 [Hayward] -- 905.501.3791 [Mississauga] --- Backwarded (2) --- Forwarded (3) From: "Lucky Green" <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> To: "Robert Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com>, "Matt Blaze" <mab@crypto.com>, <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net> Cc: "Cryptography@C2. Net" <cryptography@c2.net> Subject: RE: NSA key in MSFT Crypto API Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:58:51 -0700 The NSA would be remiss in their task as US spy agency if it failed to ensure that there are multiple backdoors to the world's most widely used operating system. One would assume, there are backdoors even the vendor does not know about. After watching the NSAKEY talk at the Crypto rump session [name elided], by his own account at the time the person ultimately responsible for CAPI at Microsoft, told a group that even he had not know about the second key. In addition, he informed us that access to the Windows source code is heavily compartmentalized, making it easy to insert modifications without the knowledge of even the respective product managers. On thing I learned from my work on the GSM ciphers is that intelligence agencies will insert compromises at every step: key size, key generation, cryptographic algorithms, every single cryptographic component in GSM has been deliberately compromised. It therefore stands to reason that additional, so far undetected, backdoors exist in Microsoft's operating systems. --Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Hettinga [mailto:rah@shipwright.com] Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 16:52 To: Matt Blaze; Lucky Green; cypherpunks@cyberpass.net Cc: Cryptography@C2. Net; bugtraq@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: NSA key in MSFT Crypto API At 3:48 PM -0400 on 9/3/99, Matt Blaze wrote: > Since anyone > with a debugger and a copy of an MS OS can find this symbol, if this is > intended as some kind of covert mechanism, it's not very well hidden. Though, truth be told, the symbols were supposedly *accidently* left in on this one build. Which brings me to my crazy "policy page" theory of all this. When, finally, people looked inside the Netscape *executable*, and saw that just-as-you-please plaintext crypto "policy" page, something anybody with a clue and good text editor could go in and change, turning their crippleware to actual crypto (I mean, even *I* went and did it for chrissakes, and it worked), the folks at Netscape said, and I think this is a direct quote, "It took you long enough." The thing must have been in there for years, I bet. Anyway, I don't know why I *don't* believe the same thing about Microsoft (okay, maybe I do, only that's a theological reason :-)), but, right now, I just can't believe that they really did this thing so that people could fix their own crippleware, just like Netscape did with their policy page. Unfortunately, I think that all this *was* a mistake on their part, and, of course, there are just that many more neurons firing outside the Microsoft firewall than in it. A classic argument for open source and peer review, of course, but, paradoxically, one which, in the end, *helps* Microsoft to be more devious about their trapdoors in the future. I'd love to be proven wrong on this, and if someone on the other side of that Redmond firewall wants to actually speak up on this, cool, but I bet this is more about failed skullduggery than any crypto-beneficence on BillG's part. Cheers, RAH --- Backwarded (3) --- Forwarded (4) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:32:38 -0400 Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: David Lesher <wb8foz@NRK.COM> Subject: Re: [dc-sage] Microsoft, the NSA, and you... (fwd) To: CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM This is long and nerdy, but think it's worthwhile. Bugtraq, in general, is a place real security types hang out, although I can't speak re: Ross (As I don't claim to know more than a few crypto types; draw no conclusion from that.) I'll assume NTBugtraq is similar. Here's the NTBUGTRAQ post........ ====================================================================== >From Russ.Cooper@RC.ON.CA Fri Sep 3 16:01:34 1999 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:57:43 -0400 From: Russ <Russ.Cooper@RC.ON.CA> To: NTBUGTRAQ@LISTSERV.NTBUGTRAQ.COM Subject: Alert: CryptoAPI and _NSAKey issue -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is also available at http://ntbugtraq.ntadvice.com/_nsakey.asp Whoa horsie... I had a long chat with Andrew Fernandes this morning, as well as another chat with others, and of course I've had a ton of messages sent my way with various links to various stories about the issue. I wanted to get a few things straight before I sent this message, but given how quickly things are spreading it makes sent to send something interim. Ok, so here's what I can tell you. 1. Andrew's speculation about the _NSAKEY being a backdoor for the NSA is based on; a) The variable is called "NSA". b) Its a second key, not known to exist in Windows previously. c) What possible purpose would a second key serve? d) Its presence, arguably, weakens CryptoAPI (Andrew explains this on his website at <http://www.cryptonym.com/hottopics/msft-nsa.html>, I'll elaborate more later. 2. Sources close to Microsoft say that the key is a "Backup" key. It is owned by Microsoft, and only Microsoft have the private key to it. The key was named "_NSAKEY" because the NSA insisted that Microsoft include a backup key in their CryptoAPI before the Commerce Department would approve its inclusion in NT 4.0. Editorial - --------- There's a bunch of somewhat understandable furor going on over the idea that the NSA might have a backdoor to Windows. Unfortunately, however, all of this is based on a variable name. Anyone who programs knows that variables might get named anything for a variety of reasons. One would expect that they would be named descriptively, but alas, not everyone follows such stringent conventions (can you spell "Easter Egg"?). The Conspiracy Theorist's theory goes; - ------------------------------------- - - The NSA has a signing key on your box. - - The NSA can implant a Trojan to replace the module which performs encryption on your box with one that doesn't perform encryption, and because the failure of signature verification against Microsoft's key is silent, they can get their trojan'd app up and running without you being any the wiser. - - The NSA can then sniff your traffic, now being conducted in plain-text. There's obviously a ton of variations possible on this theory, they take your private key, they replace your key with another, etc... They only have to get a Trojan to you and get you to run it, and as those same Conspiracy Theorists always say, <speculation>there's likely bugs in the OS designed to allow them to do this...</speculation> Yeah, could be true. My take from Microsoft's Perspective; - ------------------------------------ - - We want to have one build of our products that simultaneously supports weak or strong encryption functionality. - - We want to be able to ship this one product world-wide, changing as few bits as possible for those that are being shipped outside the U.S. and Canada. - - We'll build an API (good, bad, or otherwise) that allows the controlled bits to be inserted into an infrastructure, then get the infrastructure approved, and all will be good. - - Commerce (with advice from lots of people including the NSA), agrees, and tells Microsoft they have to sign everything that can use the infrastructure. That way, Microsoft can ship its product anywhere, and Commerce will know that only those products that have been signed by Microsoft will be able to run on the OS. - - You want to build a Cryptographic Service Provider (CSP), the module that performs the encryption, you gotta get Microsoft to sign it for it to run. Microsoft doesn't sign anything that doesn't have the appropriate Commerce Department Export approvals first. Wonderful, life's good, Microsoft doesn't have to manage multiple versions based on Crypto-strength, folks can implement whatever crypto they want (assuming its Commerce approved). Oh, the second key, I almost forgot; - ----------------------------------- I'm told the NSA insisted there had to be a backup. No explanation as to why yet, that's what I've been told. One theory that made a lot of sense to me was the simple idea of; What happens if Microsoft's key is ever compromised? Well, they'd simply revoke it, right? Yeah, but the problem is that you'd have no way of telling a Microsoft system that there's a new key. You'd have to rely on the old one to tell it about the new one. But if there's a backup key, and they're kept separate, you could use the Backup to verify the new key to replace the primary. That's only meaningful to Microsoft since there's no revocation lookup being done on the primary anyway. Microsoft would have a way to salvage its name by using a new key. In practice, this would be near impossible to deploy, but hey, at least there's a way to do it securely. BUT!!! - ------ Andrew's discovery goes beyond this NSA stuff. There's a real issue here. Andrew has found that by replacing the _NSAKEY with one of your own, you are able to add a CSP to the system signed only by you. This by-passes Microsoft's signing controls (the ones Commerce needed to be in place to allow Microsoft to ship its products world-wide). As Andrew says, "Export controll is effectively dead for Windows." More importantly, it means you can add a CSP that does whatever you want it to do, and then modify existing Windows .dlls that call CryptoAPI such that they are signed by you instead of Microsoft. This will cause them to fail the Microsoft signature verification, but they'll pass verification against your own signature. Windows will silently let them run and do whatever it is you want them to with the CryptoAPI environment. In theory, you create your own CSP to replace Microsoft's supplied CSP (implementing whatever you wanted in it, say boosting 40-bit to 128-bit), modify the second key to one of your own, install your CSP over Microsoft's, and fire up any application that uses CryptoAPI. The signature will fail Microsoft's verification, pass yours, and everything should work as if you had a U.S./Canadian version. Fortify <http://www.fortify.net/> for Windows NT (I'd sure love to see that implemented, anyone up for the challenge?) It also means the encryption you use on your system could be compromised in the same fashion, assuming it relies on CryptoAPI (hasn't this been called for by the U.S. President's commission?) Andrew's demonstration program effectively proves most of this; http://www.cryptonym.com/hottopics/msft-nsa/ReplaceNsaKey.zip On the other hand; - ----------------- If there were only one key present in the system, Andrew acknowledges, then this wouldn't be possible. However, it would still be possible to subvert the export controls by trojanning all of the necessary .dlls used with CryptoAPI with ones signed by your key, and then replacing the Microsoft key with your own. Its a lot more work, but it would still achieve the same results. Nobody is suggesting that any of this is a Remote Exploit, or something you have to worry about receiving in Email. Sure, Andrew's program demonstrates that a running application can subvert the second key and implement its own CSP...in memory...which is possible but unreliable. Bottom-line: - ------------ I think the NSA thing is being over-hyped. Sure, its possible, and we need Microsoft to make their official statement about it to have it on the record. Once they do, if anyone can prove its not their key I will happily help them. I doubt anyone will...although I also doubt that people will readily accept that it is a second Microsoft key (who killed JFK?)...maybe Microsoft can sign something with the second key so we could verify it somehow?? Meanwhile, the risk of your system's cryptographic methods being exploited is limited while folks figure out how it could be done effectively. I'm looking at how you could audit access or manipulation, but what's really needed is a TripWire-like functionality (http://www.tripwiresecurity.com/). Alternatively, Microsoft should build-in some additional mechanism to verify that something that should be Microsoft signed, really is Microsoft signed, and not a blind failover to the second key. As to the issues of a third key in W2K, I have no information regarding this beyond what Andrew has said. More as information becomes available. 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