Geert Lovink on Sun, 7 Dec 2008 08:49:28 +0100 (CET) |
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[Nettime-nl] fwd: call for support: why? |
soms even een brug slaan tussen nettime-l en nettime-nl... groeten, geert Begin forwarded message: > Resent-From: nettime@kein.org > From: "Calin Dan" <adsl487504@tiscali.nl> > Date: 6 December 2008 2:26:54 PM > Resent-To: Nettime <nettime-l@kein.org> > To: "nettime" <nettime-l@kein.org> > Subject: Re: <nettime> Call for support: why? > > Dutch culture coined a very useful term for evaluating the position > of an > art discourse in relation with societal issues such as the ones > questioned > by the Pirates ... ; it is called autonomy. > > Autonomy entitles art to float freely in the interstices of the social > fabric, to experiment and to steer in unexpected directions. When > experiment > and steering relate directly to the fabric itself, the art discourse > looses > autonomy and gains relational power (in the sense designed by Nic. > Bouriaud). Relational art has an increased chance to > acknowledgement, but > also - naturally - to criticism, coming not only from the > comfortable inner > circles, but also from the structures to which the respective > discourse > relates. Needless to say that both concepts (autonomous, relational) > have > no axiological power; they are not about quality, they are about > method. > > The student work that generated this thread is obviously relational. > So, it > got its moment of attention, including censorship. All unfolded as > planned, > I suppose; if not, then there was something flawed in the initial > planning > and/or in the authors' / tutors' expectations. > > One might say that the whole issue is about the unexpected reactions > of the > general users, who rejected the project. Well, this was after all > (or wasn't > it?) an art project - so people are free to reject it as they please. > > Another could argue that the whole fuss is about the IP playing the > watch > dog for Amazon. Well again, there is probably a learning curve in > the way > corporate environments deal with tactical art projects; something to > think > about, maybe. > > What under-streams all aspects of the discussion till here is the > old double > standard mentality lurking in our (self)perception as artists and > cultural > workers: we would like to be autonomous (i.e. free of consequences > for our > decisions), but also relational (therefore socially efficient), and > - of > course - vastly accepted. Too bad, as in the end art is neither > autonomous > nor relational; it is just one of the multitude of human > manifestations > competing for attention in a surcharged environment. > > Calin Dan > > > > > > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org ______________________________________________________ * Verspreid via nettime-nl. Commercieel gebruik niet * toegestaan zonder toestemming. <nettime-nl> is een * open en ongemodereerde mailinglist over net-kritiek. * Meer info, archief & anderstalige edities: * http://www.nettime.org/. * Contact: Menno Grootveld (rabotnik@xs4all.nl).