Sally Jane Norman on Fri, 25 May 2001 16:56:25 +0200 |
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RE: Syndicate: this flocks of netgulls |
Dear Syndicalists As someone who won't be in Plovdiv but remains a syndicate subscriber, albeit a bit of a lurker at times, my off-the-cuff strictly subjective feelings about the list right now, for what they're worth... Sure it's changed and fortunately so. Nostalgia for kinship felt at the list's early days is best countered by honestly reviewing which people met at that time I'm still in touch with, directly or perceptibly through this or another list. Whatever the list has turned into, there's nothing preventing me from hooking up with contacts it enabled me to establish - and which no other list could have provided. If syndicate had remained as it was, it would be a worrying piece of inertia. Not a particularly dynamic feature for a so-called community. The noise is perhaps irritating at times but healthy - preened no-noise discussion rhymes with bland consensus: we're all talking the same way about the same things. Pitie! Human dialogue presupposes identities whose "differance" (un-French people seem to find it chic to be deleuzian, so I'll throw that one in for free with all due respect and consideration for the fatally radical way this philosopher condemned WINDOWS) makes the sparring, the exchange, worth engaging. Being drawn together by a loose (not sloppy, just undefinable) nexus of interests and empathy is I think appreciable. If/when strong "differances" (or contrariwise "correspondances") make themselves felt, conflict also testifies to something living and worth getting steamed up about (life being the sum of the forces that combat death, according to Pasteur). This probably comes across as a bunch of home-made truisms, an "ok philosophy" perhaps dangerously cose to the "ok art/ist" Rafa Lozano threw into the ocean a few weeks ago (nettime/ syndicate). Even if I've found verbal violence on the list a pain at times, its absence would imply a dangerous state of wilful sedation. The nice list for the nice people. Yuk. Heated personal discussions about geographical and political stakes I'm physically very safely removed from bring home certain points that other media can't. Again, subjective stuff: I need this environment for purely personal reasons, for a certain quality of relational immediacy to people otherwise impossible to hang out with. Not nettourism - except for those who qualify any kind of social exchange as a kind of gratuitous cultural tourism. So if billboarding is on the rise, what the hell. Larger group = useful platform for spreading the word about what people are up to. Inevitable. Entropy/ neguentropy. Not keen on moderation, personally. Just look at all the angry - and unjustified! - attacks syndicate managers have had to deal with over the years, accusations of censorship for what indeed remains an open, non-moderated list. What kind of virtual pillory would real censorship put them in? People being too clever all the time (look mum no hands), or too gray-haired philosophicomoral, or whatever, give the list/ community its momentary connotations/ colours. They change like a cameleon. The non-time-bound, non-theme-bound dimensions of syndicate strike me as important e.g. if we compare it with certain kinds of cultural fora mushrooming on the net. Thematically focussed with a strange - contradictory? - desire to conciliate spontaneous net participation spiked by well-timed catalytic input of big-name signatories. The result being that the membrane between the two types of contributions - sollicited (commissioned) and spontaneous - remains basically impermeable. The big names generally don't bother responding to anonymous small-fry, their "duty" being done once they've thrown in their duly counted words of wisdom. Which of course considerably enhance the post-forum publication... Of course some interesting stuff comes out of such encounters, but what I find most intriguing is their social mechanics - the artifices used to put them together. Indicative of new attempts to forge online "stake-holder" groups. Whereas syndicate's stakes reside in a certain openness - difficult to maintain, decidedly un-ok (for you, Rafa with love!) at times. But despite all this, there's something of the initial ideology that seems to weld and make it hold together - whatever that was. What was it, Andreas? Cultural issues, openings onto Central and Eastern Europe? V2-East way back when? Maybe I'm a complete idiot, but this is the flavour I can still taste in the list and that keeps me on it. Sorry to note there'll be nobody from France (or Aotearoa - Honor, m'dear are you webcast or just plain netted?) in Plovdiv. But please take this open ramble from Saintonge as expression of a personal need, hopefully probably one amongst umpteen, for this kind of list. We're not a list of names. We're a list of people. kia ora sjn ps - netgulls strike a resonant chord, seafarers bow to the tides, to the breathing of the deep housed ocean monster Te Parata. Something between surfer and driftwood. The environment is much bigger than me and I be-long to it. the body of the msg: unsubscribe syndicate your@email.adress