t byfield on Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:50:04 -0400 |
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Re: Syndicate: re: syndicate re: benson etc. |
jtravis@cwcom.net (Wed 06/02/99 at 04:44 PM +0000): <...> > So, I agree and repeat that Milosevic's viscious ethnic > cleansing should be unreservedly condemned and that we > should not take sides between NATO and Milosevic as both > are evil and indeed it is questionable whether Milosevic > is being attacked as his political situation in Serbia > is now much improved but even if NATO did or could take > on Milosevic <...> > I would agree that any anti-war position should be accompanied > by a condemnation of Serbian army and paramilitary aggression > (without demonising most Serb people who like others- race is > after all an artificial and nationalistic category- are exploited > and powerless). <...> grtz. i don't mean to nitpick, but if you want to 'unreservedly condemn' the milosevic regime's activities, then you must, i think, admit that violence is a legitimate possible form for that condemnation. but if you aren't willing to admit that, then your condemnations are very reserved indeed. this is not an issue of language: it's a fundamental issue which (the left|progressives|alternative types) have very studiously avoided facing. except, of course, for those intellectuals who've been roundly condemned for supporting NATO's war effort. to say this is not to endorse what NATO is doing, or any of the violence that's going on, on any side. but it seems to me that the basic question which everyone must answer is this: Can violence be a legitimate recourse? once you've answered that for yourself, *then* the question *might* be- come: Did these circumstances merit the use of violence? i think the answers are, in order, yes and no. but to answer the second question that way invites yet another question: *not* 'What should have been done?' because it wasn't done--that's a question for the dreamy world of what-if--but, rather, What should be done? condemnations aren't enough now. i wish i knew what should be done, but i don't. but it doesn't do much good to sit on the moral high ground and stare at oneself in the mirror. i'm not saying you're doing that, these remarks aren't in- tended personally. but, in general, i'm very dismayed at how many clever people seem to have failed so badly in asking these very basic questions. cheers, (sort of) ted ------Syndicate mailinglist-------------------- Syndicate network for media culture and media art information and archive: http://www.v2.nl/syndicate to unsubscribe, write to <syndicate-request@aec.at> in the body of the msg: unsubscribe your@email.adress