[Nettime-bold] Re: RHIZOME_RAW: <> art money, income, etc.

["Nicholas Hermann" <NHerman@hga.com>]

>>> "(((o)))" <leegte@xs4all.nl> 11/30/00 11:43AM >>>
you approach religion at it's politic and economic side?
is that it's core?

Religion is one manifestation of media.  I call it a system of media
control.  Politics and economics are also media.  I call them systems of
media control. 
At the core of religion is the ineffable union of history and
cognition; the worldly shadows of religion are delusions like church,
nation, hierarchy, museum, expertise, indulgences.  

(
>  [[when religion]]
> [[is]]
> [[compromised]]
> [[as]]
> [[income]]
)
are these worldly shadows of religion not delusional?
(
> [[is it still ]]
> [[religion?]]
)

what do you want out of religion,

curious,

leegte.

Max replies:

I want out of religion.  I want to become.  I want everything to
become.  I want to blast religion out of the continuum of history into
the jetztzeit just like nn does.

"Religion forgets that it owes its own existence to the tragic
estrangement of man (sic) from his true being.  It forgets its own
emergency character."

--Paul Tillich, Theology of Culture, p.9, as quoted in the Genius 2000
Video First Edition.
http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/Transcripts.html

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicholas Hermann" <NHerman@hga.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>; <leegte@xs4all.nl>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: <> art money, income, etc.


> ++++
> 
> Genius 2000 started with talents, small papers I sent to people. 
Later
> I had people read or react to these talents on tape.  Lesson Two has
a
> nice green and gray color scheme like money; Contribution One is
> christmas colors (98), Lesson one is black and white.  I sent them
to
> lots of people, like Tome Sherman and Cary Peppermint.  They didn't
get
> it.  The economics of Genius 2000 are superlative.  
> 
> I don't claim to have the answer; lee and jef have it but may not
know
> it.  Genius 2000 does have it if only people would get together and
> discuss it.  Even for a few minutes.  
> 
> Jay Fenello (at Fenello.com) asked me after seeing the First Edition
> "what are those little pieces of paper?  Where did they come from? 
What
> is their significance?"  Jef and Lee are onto the answers.
> 
> I also expanded the talent concept into tickets, which I throw here
and
> there as the case may be.  David Ross doesn't like this topic
though,
> and he's on the board of Rhizome, so don't expect to leave the
> underground.
> 
> I'm listening,
> 
> Max Herman
> http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/lessontwo.JPG 
> 
> >>> "(((o)))" <leegte@xs4all.nl> 11/30/00 05:40AM >>>
> 
> 
>  [[when art]]
> [[is]]
> [[compromised]]
> [[as]]
> [[income]]
> [[is it still ]]
> [[art?]]
>  
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > when art 
> > > is 
> > > no longer 
> > > perceived 
> > > as 
> > > an income 
> > > is it still 
> > > art?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >     *.jef
> > >     http://www.snarg.net 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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